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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:09 am

The Australian Christian Lobby has condemned a move by a Sydney high school to allow male students to wear female uniforms, and to let students freely express what gender they identify with.

Students at Newtown Performing Arts High School have been told anyone can wear a skirt to school, and refer to themselves as either male or female.

They have also been told that anyone identifying as a girl can use the female toilets.

But while parents have welcomed the change to the school's uniform rules, the Australian Christian Lobby claims it is a step too far and that it effectively encourages children to make radical choices with their lives

The school, in Sydney's inner-west, prides itself on its progressive values.

In recent years the school has approved special requests, allowing students transitioning from one gender to the other to wear the uniform of their choosing, and to use the alternative toilet.

The difference now is that these students do not have to seek formal permission.

Maya Saric is a parent with two children at the school, enrolled in grades eight and 10.

"We've been told, through the children, that they're allowed to choose from either of the gender uniforms," Ms Saric told AM.

"And they've been told that the school has dropped gender-typing. The child can decide for themselves how they perceive their gender."

Ms Saric said she had no objections to the change in uniform policy.

"If children are really struggling with that issue, then they shouldn't be... forced into pigeonholes by the school," she said.

"They're facing enough turmoil and change and crisis of their own. It's not really relevant what colour trousers they're wearing and whether they're wearing a skirt or shorts."

Another parent, Tony Ryan, has also welcomed the change.

"Change to the uniform policy means that kids who feel that they don't fit into a particular category feel safe," Mr Ryan said.
'Radical gender theory' entering schools: Christian Lobby

But not everyone agrees with the school's decision.

Australian Christian Lobby (ACL) managing director Lyle Shelton told AM he was worried about "rainbow politics" entering schools.

"This whole questioning of what it means to be male or female and the idea that gender doesn't matter anymore, I think is radical gender theory, and it's finding its way into our schools," Mr Shelton said.

"I think people are wondering if this is where rainbow ideology and rainbow politics is taking us.

"Maybe we better take a second look at the whole agenda that is behind things like the same-sex marriage debate, etcetera."

Mr Shelton said he was also worried boys wearing skirts could be bullied.

"I think the thing to remember is that no-one should be bullied at school," he said.

"We have very good anti-bullying programs. No-one should be bullied for any reason at all. But these gender theory ideas go way beyond anti-bullying to almost proselytising and trying to encourage and instruct young people in radical practices."
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Lol, Christian Lobby complaining about proselytising... :fp:
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Post by JimC » Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:18 am

They all wore dresses in the middle east 2000 years ago...
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:22 am

The Poop still wears a dress!
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Post by JimC » Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:24 am

I wore a caftan in the 70s.

I think...
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:33 am

I'm surprised you can still remember the 70's... :smoke:
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Post by JimC » Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:10 am

It is a little fuzzy...
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Post by Hermit » Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:59 am

Mr Shelton said he was also worried boys wearing skirts could be bullied.
The cassock, or soutane, is an item of Christian clerical clothing used by the clergy of Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Anglican and Reformed churches, among others. "Ankle-length garment" is the literal meaning of the corresponding Latin term, vestis talaris. It is related to habit traditionally worn by nuns, monks, and friars.

The cassock derives historically from the tunic that in ancient Rome was worn underneath the toga and the chiton that was worn beneath the himation in ancient Greece. In religious services, it has traditionally been worn underneath vestments, such as the alb.

In the West, the cassock is little used today except for religious services; but in many countries it was the normal everyday wear of the clergy until the second half of the 20th century
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[quote=""JimC"]They all wore dresses in the middle east 2000 years ago...[/quote]

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Post by Forty Two » Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:30 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
The Australian Christian Lobby has condemned a move by a Sydney high school to allow male students to wear female uniforms, and to let students freely express what gender they identify with.

Students at Newtown Performing Arts High School have been told anyone can wear a skirt to school, and refer to themselves as either male or female.
In principle, sure, a teenager should be able to refer to themselves as either male or female. But, but too much time is being wasted in schools over navel-gazing. Other people are not obligated to give a fuck what another person identifies as. Sure, let people be free -- all people.

They have also been told that anyone identifying as a girl can use the female toilets.
Great. Now all a teenage boy needs to do to get into the girls' bathroom is declare that he identifies as a female. Since gender is a social construct, I suppose that should also mean that a boy doesn't have to "act girly" or dress a certain way to "identify" as female. He can be a heterosexual who happens to identify as a girl and who dresses in traditional boys' clothes. I'm so glad the schools are requiring 14 year old girls to go to the bathroom with boys. So Progressive.

This "you can use the female toilets" nonsense is, well, nonsense. Just go to the fucking bathroom assigned to your sex. If you have a penis and want some privacy, they have stalls. Go to a stall.

How much time and energy are schools going to waste on people demanding to identify as cats and use the litter box. For the love of fucking gods....

But while parents have welcomed the change to the school's uniform rules, the Australian Christian Lobby claims it is a step too far and that it effectively encourages children to make radical choices with their lives
Just make a fucking uniform for the kids, so they aren't spending their days agonizing over what to wear.

The school, in Sydney's inner-west, prides itself on its progressive values.
LOL. "prides" itself on its "values." So, it's o.k. to have "Progressive values" -- can the school change it's mind and have "Conservative values?"

This is the problem when schools start focusing on morals. Just fucking keep the kids safe from injury, and teach them academics. It's not the school's business who "identifies" as what. If you have a cock, and you identify as female, then you still should use the bathroom designated for cock-carrying students.

In recent years the school has approved special requests, allowing students transitioning from one gender to the other to wear the uniform of their choosing, and to use the alternative toilet.
Wow! That's soooooooo important. Do they allow Otherkins to dress as their Otherkin identity? Let's just make it a costume party at school, except, of course, if you're white and you identify as an aborigine, you can't dress like that. Your identity would be cultural appropriation.

The difference now is that these students do not have to seek formal permission.

Maya Saric is a parent with two children at the school, enrolled in grades eight and 10.

"We've been told, through the children, that they're allowed to choose from either of the gender uniforms," Ms Saric told AM.

"And they've been told that the school has dropped gender-typing. The child can decide for themselves how they perceive their gender."

Ms Saric said she had no objections to the change in uniform policy.

"If children are really struggling with that issue, then they shouldn't be... forced into pigeonholes by the school," she said.

"They're facing enough turmoil and change and crisis of their own. It's not really relevant what colour trousers they're wearing and whether they're wearing a skirt or shorts."
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In a way, it is helpful if these kind of options are removed from their list of things to worry about. Encouraging people to endlessly agonize over outfits and what gender they feel like today is really a waste of time and energy, and it causes the dysphoria people are worried about, IMO. Oh, I'm gender-fluid, so today I'm a boy, but tomorrow I'm a girl, and the next day I'm neither and the next day I'm both, so everyone else has to make sure they confirm my preferred pronouns and don't you dare call me a girl when I'm a boy or I'll accuse you of transphobia and harassment.
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Post by Forty Two » Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:32 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:The Poop still wears a dress!
That's because he identifies as a pedophile.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:57 pm

I wonder if you can spot the irony in your post. Liberals are ultimately highly ironic on this subject. "These people should stop fretting about small issues and worry about real problems" says exasperated liberal worrying about an issue that simply works for those involved. Why the fuck do you liberals get in such a fret about this stuff?? How is this policy hurting anyone? This is why I point out that conservatism actually underpins liberalism. You lot just can't handle change that doesn't gel with your world view.
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Post by Forty Two » Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:00 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:I wonder if you can spot the irony in your post. Liberals are ultimately highly ironic on this subject. "These people should stop fretting about small issues and worry about real problems" says exasperated liberal worrying about an issue that simply works for those involved. Why the fuck do you liberals get in such a fret about this stuff?? How is this policy hurting anyone? This is why I point out that conservatism actually underpins liberalism. You lot just can't handle change that doesn't gel with your world view.
I'm not in a fret about it. I read the article and posted on it. This is no different than any other issue here. All of us post on things that are of no particular import or importance to us, and on rather trivial matters.

However, when we are referring to school policies, the policies that occur in schools are important to many people, particularly those of us with kids. The article referred to a specific school system, but that school is not the only school that is creating policies like this. So, discussing the merits of these kinds of school policies is a worthwhile exercise, because similar things are becoming more common.

How is the policy hurting anyone? Well, as I mentioned, it's letting teenage boys into the girls bathrooms. It's requiring girls to do their business while boys may be walking in and out. Even if the teenage boy is in a dress, it can make teenage girls uncomfortable. The article says that anyone can use the female restrooms -- and no advance permission is needed.

I said, expressly, that I do not oppose the students being allowed to identify as anything they want. What I think happens with these kinds of policies, dealing with kids, is that it encourages undue focus on this stuff during academic time. I think the kids should focus on academics, because it's a school. The article suggests that the policy changes are intended to reduce the turmoil suffered by students who have these kinds of gender issues. But, it seems to me that such a large focus on gender issues in the school would create the very turmoil that the policies seek to prevent through an excessive focus on these issues.
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Post by NineBerry » Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:10 pm

Regulating that some people must not enter some public resource because it might make others feel uncomfortable does not sound like a very liberal idea.

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Post by Forty Two » Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:22 pm

NineBerry wrote:Regulating that some people must not enter some public resource because it might make others feel uncomfortable does not sound like a very liberal idea.
Boys and girls between the ages of 14 and 18 years old sharing the same public restrooms. What could go wrong?
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Post by NineBerry » Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:28 pm

Flash back 100 years:
Boys and girls between the ages of 14 and 18 years old going to the same public school. What could go wrong?

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