The Thread of BREXIT
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I was one of the quiet majority in favour of staying, till the last six months.
Now I'm intending to vote for out. That's what makes me wonder, how many are there thinking the same as me. Most of the people I know, who were on the fence, are favouring out right now, which has shown up in the most recent opinion polls.
If the vote is held in the summer, there will be renewed floods of migrants, and floppy, ineffective measures failing to halt the flow. If anything is going to persuade people to leave, that will.
Personally, I think they've done a back-door deal with Turkey, on membership in the near future. That would be the last straw for a lot of people, and the out campaigns would begin in earnest.
So I'm voting out now, while the chance is there.
Now I'm intending to vote for out. That's what makes me wonder, how many are there thinking the same as me. Most of the people I know, who were on the fence, are favouring out right now, which has shown up in the most recent opinion polls.
If the vote is held in the summer, there will be renewed floods of migrants, and floppy, ineffective measures failing to halt the flow. If anything is going to persuade people to leave, that will.
Personally, I think they've done a back-door deal with Turkey, on membership in the near future. That would be the last straw for a lot of people, and the out campaigns would begin in earnest.
So I'm voting out now, while the chance is there.
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Seems to me that we're not really being asked if we want to stay in the European Union, but if we think foreigners should get welfare benefits and access to the labour market. The whole thing's gone bogus.
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Clinton Huxley » 21 Jun 2012 » 14:10:36 GMT
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They've started. Apparently staying in means more terrorism. According to Cuntan Smith.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-e ... m-35624409
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-e ... m-35624409
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You want to know why people are intending to vote one way or the other?
It's not whether they went to university.
It's what newspaper they read.
I never read newspapers, that's why I'm a floating voter.
It's not whether they went to university.
It's what newspaper they read.
I never read newspapers, that's why I'm a floating voter.
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Well yes, but the paper they read tends to depend on whether they went to university.
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Yes I agree, but if you're looking for cause and effect, it's the newspapers over the university education.Rum wrote:Well yes, but the paper they read tends to depend on whether they went to university.
Mind you, with the rates of people going to university these days, it's not the cream of the crop, that it used to be.
Most of the young people I know with a degree are doing jobs that need nothing of the sort.
In any case, a university doesn't convey political wisdom, or it would make sense to restrict voting to graduates.
It was graduates who managed to contrive a worldwide banking crash.
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Brexit is going to be open class warfare, the middle classes will vote to stay, the working/underclass along with the nearly deads will vote to leave.
It's a generalisation but in the end that's all politics is reducing people to statistics and probabilities.
Any debate is utterly pointless anyone who hasn't made up their mind a long time ago will almost certainly not bother to vote at all
It's a generalisation but in the end that's all politics is reducing people to statistics and probabilities.
Any debate is utterly pointless anyone who hasn't made up their mind a long time ago will almost certainly not bother to vote at all
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Look even as a conservative I have no time for Iain Duncan Smith and his war on the disabled. Though every Jihadi retard Germany accepts will be allowed to enter the UK later. Lets get the fuck out.Rum wrote:They've started. Apparently staying in means more terrorism. According to Cuntan Smith.
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mistermack wrote: It was graduates who managed to contrive a worldwide banking crash.

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Well, without graduates there would be no banks in the first place... their toys, theirs to crash.rainbow wrote:mistermack wrote: It was graduates who managed to contrive a worldwide banking crash.
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Not their money though. They were caring for other people's toys.Svartalf wrote:Well, without graduates there would be no banks in the first place... their toys, theirs to crash.rainbow wrote:mistermack wrote: It was graduates who managed to contrive a worldwide banking crash.
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The problem with Duncan-Smith's point is that homegrown terrorism has been, and is, far more of a real threat that 'Them nasty foreigners' - so his remarks just come over as willfully deceptive fear-mongery and bigotry, which of course they are. Somebody working that hard to give the impression that structured international social and economic cooperation leads to terrorism should be obliged to back their point up with facts, not further dodgy self-authorising opinions.DaveDodo007 wrote:Look even as a conservative I have no time for Iain Duncan Smith and his war on the disabled. Though every Jihadi retard Germany accepts will be allowed to enter the UK later. Lets get the fuck out.Rum wrote:They've started. Apparently staying in means more terrorism. According to Cuntan Smith.
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Clinton Huxley » 21 Jun 2012 » 14:10:36 GMT
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mistermack wrote:Not their money though. They were caring for other people's toys.Svartalf wrote:Well, without graduates there would be no banks in the first place... their toys, theirs to crash.rainbow wrote:mistermack wrote: It was graduates who managed to contrive a worldwide banking crash.

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