Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely

[Seth]

I've wondered since I was invited here how long it would be before the liberal fascists took over this forum and started their leftist political pogrom against any speech or expression to the right of Josef Stalin.

Now I know.

[pErvinalia]

[JimC]

I've wondered since I was invited here how long it would be before the liberal fascists took over this forum and started their leftist political pogrom against any speech or expression to the right of Josef Stalin.

Now I know.

Your suspensions have not been because of your political views, but because of your personal attacks on others. This includes generalised attacks such as referring to members of the forum as "liberal fascists". This is a warning that any similar post will incur a lengthy suspension.

[Seth]

I've wondered since I was invited here how long it would be before the liberal fascists took over this forum and started their leftist political pogrom against any speech or expression to the right of Josef Stalin.

Now I know.

Your suspensions have not been because of your political views, but because of your personal attacks on others.

You're a fucking liar. Howcum rEv and Feck have not been suspended for their repeated and despicable personal attacks? Because they are leftists, of course.

This includes generalised attacks such as referring to members of the forum as "liberal fascists". This is a warning that any similar post will incur a lengthy suspension.

Ipse dixit quod erat demonstrandum

Oh, and I wasn't referring to "members," I was referring specifically and explicitly to YOU, you liberal fascist fuck.

Now, where in the FUA is that section about "generalized attacks?" Oh, wait, that's in the RatSkep FUA, not the Ratz FUA, which means you're just making shit up now. And we all know exactly why you are doing so. Don't bother denying it. I also noted that nobody raised any objection to your high-handed, autocratic, liberal fascist abuse of your position as a moderator, which is an utter travesty that should be resolved by kicking your sorry ass right off of the forum. But hey, that's just my opinion. I'm sure the other liberal fascist fucks here will be celebrating soon. Fine by me.

So, you and the rest of the liberal fascist fucks on this site can all go fuck yourselves because this is no longer a forum worthy of my respect or participation, so you can deactivate my account permanently and bore yourselves to death in yet another liberal fascist echo chamber.

I'll find another venue to contribute to. It's your loss, not mine. I was spending way too much time trying to educate fuckwits like you anyway. It's a complete waste of time because you're simply too fucking stupid to understand anything other than the Marxist propaganda swirling around in your microcephalic Zika-infected brains.

But, it was fun up until now. How sad that nobody even bothered to object to your liberal fascism and abuse of power. Not at all unexpected, just sad.

Whoa! I just had massive deja-vu that I've said this before...oh, wait, I HAVE said it before....

[pErvinalia]

I've wondered since I was invited here how long it would be before the liberal fascists took over this forum and started their leftist political pogrom against any speech or expression to the right of Josef Stalin.

Now I know.

Your suspensions have not been because of your political views, but because of your personal attacks on others.

You're a fucking liar.

Oops.

Howcum rEv and Feck have not been suspended for their repeated and despicable personal attacks? Because they are leftists, of course.

Because i didn't make any personal attacks, and Feck doesn't have a repeated history like you of repeated attacks.

This includes generalised attacks such as referring to members of the forum as "liberal fascists". This is a warning that any similar post will incur a lengthy suspension.

Ipse dixit quod erat demonstrandum

Oh, and I wasn't referring to "members," I was referring specifically and explicitly to YOU, you liberal fascist fuck.

So why do you whinge when you get suspended?!? You know very well you are directly attacking people despite warnings to stop doing it.

Now, where in the FUA is that section about "generalized attacks?" Oh, wait, that's in the RatSkep FUA, not the Ratz FUA, which means you're just making shit up now. And we all know exactly why you are doing so. Don't bother denying it. I also noted that nobody raised any objection to your high-handed, autocratic, liberal fascist abuse of your position as a moderator, which is an utter travesty that should be resolved by kicking your sorry ass right off of the forum. But hey, that's just my opinion. I'm sure the other liberal fascist fucks here will be celebrating soon. Fine by me.

See ya.

So, you and the rest of the liberal fascist fucks on this site can all go fuck yourselves because this is no longer a forum worthy of my respect or participation, so you can deactivate my account permanently and bore yourselves to death in yet another liberal fascist echo chamber.

I'll find another venue to contribute to. It's your loss, not mine.

It's been great not having the most dishonest debater getting around, and a perennial hate monger, not here. Believe me, no one (other than the other trolls) will be mourning your loss.

I was spending way too much time trying to educate fuckwits like you anyway. It's a complete waste of time because you're simply too fucking stupid to understand anything other than the Marxist propaganda swirling around in your microcephalic Zika-infected brains.

But, it was fun up until now. How sad that nobody even bothered to object to your liberal fascism and abuse of power. Not at all unexpected, just sad.

Whoa! I just had massive deja-vu that I've said this before...oh, wait, I HAVE said it before....

See ya.

[JimC]

Seth wrote:

How sad that nobody even bothered to object to your liberal fascism and abuse of power.

It is clear you have not understood how we are currently viewing such generalised attacks. Until you can alter your responses, you will continue to be suspended. You are thus suspended for a further week; next occasion will be for longer.

[pErvinalia]

You're such a liberal fascist, Jim!! (Whatever a liberal fascist is. It's actually an oxymoron.)

[JimC]

As an aside, Seth seems to have confused the operation of an internet forum based on voluntary membership with the somewhat more serious business of governmental systems.

I suppose that eventually the difference will become clear to him...

[Hermit]

I'll find another venue to contribute to.

I hope he'll keep that promise, but at the same time I feel sorry for the members of whatever forum he'll berate next. He must be running out of sites that won't ban him post haste. I know of two that ban very rarely and one that has never banned anyone at all, but I would not be so cruel to them to provide links.

[tuco]

Corrupts absolutely and as it seems it fuck up brain too. We uphold freedom of speech and expression. Go Charlie Hedbo! Go whoever! Especially someone ridiculing religion and believers. But not here, not personal attacks. That would interfere with discussion. lol Fucking idiots, hypocritical idiots.

[pErvinalia]

I'll find another venue to contribute to.

I hope he'll keep that promise, but at the same time I feel sorry for the members of whatever forum he'll berate next. He must be running out of sites that won't ban him post haste. I know of two that ban very rarely and one that has never banned anyone at all, but I would not be so cruel to them to provide links.

I hear A+ is looking for members...

[pErvinalia]

Corrupts absolutely and as it seems it fuck up brain too. We uphold freedom of speech and expression. Go Charlie Hedbo! Go whoever! Especially someone ridiculing religion and believers. But not here, not personal attacks. That would interfere with discussion. lol Fucking idiots, hypocritical idiots.

Well, you have to draw the line somewhere if you want to avoid total anarchy. Total free speech would be a mess.

[tuco]

No, you drew the line and now you cannot defend it beyond .. it would be mess .. which you have no evidence for as you did not run two models to compare. Inconsistent moderation, OP points out, is inevitable. There is no trial, there is no defence, there is only opinion of those in power. That is why it needs to go.

btw This "you ..." argument when talking about oneself. Its common but its stupid.

[JimC]

Let me make things absolutely clear. There has been a shift in emphasis, in the sense that the constant series of generalised PA's adopted by certain members, i.e. "you marxist useful idiots" or words to that effect will no longer be tolerated, nor will the more conventional PAs directed at a single person. I have decided, with the tacit agreement of other moderators who still occasionally post, that the good of the forum outweighs the somewhat tender sensibilities of bending over backwards to avoid being "like Ratskep".

Having said that, there will be absolutely no political censorship. Views on issues are whatever they are. They can generate robust debate, but it will be issue based, not personalised, whether that involves berating other members as marxist (or tory) scum in general, or in particular. No appeals, no fucking around, quite transparent; a holiday will ensue.

[pErvinalia]

No, you drew the line and now you cannot defend it beyond .. it would be mess .. which you have no evidence for as you did not run two models to compare.

Rubbish. Surely you've seen unmoderated youtube comments? There's plenty of forums around the net where there is little to no moderation. And they to a fucking single unity all degenerate into vitriol.

To think this is even debatable suggests you are on another planet to the rest of us. Are you seriously going to argue that an unmoderated forum is going to be more calm and informative than a forum with a set of (reasonably) clear guidelines?

Inconsistent moderation, OP points out, is inevitable. There is no trial, there is no defence, there is only opinion of those in power. That is why it needs to go.

Throwing the baby out with the bath water isn't any solution. This isn't a binary problem. There's degrees in between. It's not a case of moderation or no moderation.

btw This "you ..." argument when talking about oneself. Its common but its stupid.

What's "stupid" is that you keep deigning to comment on common English idioms when it's clear English is nowhere near your first language.