Hillary Clinton Email Scandal

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Re: Hillary Clinton Email Scandal

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:13 am

I think they are worse. Although, it's hard to know if the non-trump ones are as bad as electing GW *twice!*
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:15 am

Maybe Rubio, as the establishment GOP candidate, might be not utterly insane? People who supposedly know reckon he'll come up with enough support by the end.
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Re: Hillary Clinton Email Scandal

Post by laklak » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:19 am

That's like arguing about whether smallpox is worse than typhoid. In 30 years we'll call these the good old days. Well, I won't, cuz I'll be worm food, thank Dog.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:25 am

laklak wrote:That's like arguing about whether smallpox is worse than typhoid.
Yeah, probably. I think if Trump or Cruz get in, the US will go close to destroying itself.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:32 am

Breaking news: Cruz wins Iowa! The beginning of the end for the buffoon?
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Post by laklak » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:44 am

Cruz is scarier than Trump, as he'd have more congressional support. But he's still constrained by the Constitution and SCOTUS. Folks here often complain about worshiping the Constitution, but it's what stands between us and theocratic despotism, even with Cruz and a Bible thumping Congress. Nobody's managed to destroy the Union in over two centuries, that little weasel faced fuck won't do it either. We got guns.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:49 am

I agree that he's scarier. I don't think much of your SCOTUS. It's made up of partisan operatives.
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Re: Hillary Clinton Email Scandal

Post by Hermit » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:18 am

laklak wrote:Cruz is scarier than Trump, as he'd have more congressional support. But he's still constrained by the Constitution and SCOTUS.
I'm thinking along the same lines as rEv. Supreme court judges have to interpret what the constitution "really" means. At the moment the bench is stacked with very conservative ones. Among them Scalia is almost as scary as Cruz.
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Re: Hillary Clinton Email Scandal

Post by Forty Two » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:32 pm

The SCOTUS tends to surprise is, though.

Republican Earl Warren came to the court spearheaded the SCOTUS' rulings on all areas of individual liberties, from right to privacy, contraception, race (Brown vs Board of Ed), religion (religion out of schools), the rights of the criminally accused (Miranda rights).

People forget this a lot, especially Republicans. The Republican led SCOTUS expanded individual rights in the 1950s and 1960s, and the Republicans in Congress are the ones who overwhelmingly supported the Civil Rights Acts in the mid-1960s.

Take Roe v Wade. The justices voted 7-2 in favor of abortion rights. And, Blackmun, Powell and Burger were Nixon appointees, Brennan and Stewart were Eisenhower appointees. The only two dissents were Rhenquist and White, and White was appointed by John F. Kennedy (Rhenquist was by Nixon, who also appointed three of the justices who sided with the majority).

When the GOP got overrun by the religious nutters, everything went downhill fast.
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