Laws, even the constituion can be changed. ISIS didn't exactly win the ballot box, the muslim brotherhood did win in Egypt and I suppose the Iranians did after their revolution. Then their's our "friends" Saudi Arabia.....rEvolutionist wrote:In countries with a decent constitution that simply can't happen. It also relies on made up shit that every Muslim wants that. Basically, it's bigotted, which is no surprise coming from you.Tyrannical wrote:Not sure why the left leaning want Muslim immigration. Booze outlawed, gays jailed, women not allowed to vote, atheists jailed for blasphemy; thats what enough Muslims will get you.
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A rational skeptic should be able to discuss and debate anything, no matter how much they may personally disagree with that point of view. Discussing a subject is not agreeing with it, but understanding it.
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You're a scared little child. Most constitutions need super majorities, often in a number of domains, to change. Even if 100% of Muslims emigrating and locally born wanted sharia law (which they don't) they'd need to be at least 66% of the voting population. Get you calculator out and work out how long that might take. Then work it out for 50% of Muslims wanting sharia (hint: it could never happen with less than 66% Muslim support).
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We are hoping they will slowly and painfully slaughter all racists...Tyrannical wrote:Not sure why the left leaning want Muslim immigration. Booze outlawed, gays jailed, women not allowed to vote, atheists jailed for blasphemy; thats what enough Muslims will get you.
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I knew him personally. And he preferred Big Mac over Whopper.Seth wrote: You're the one who said "Che had a whopper" not me, so it's reasonable to assume that you know this by virtue of personally getting buggered by Che, who was one of the most evil fucking bastards who has ever existed on the face of the earth.
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Drivel.Tyrannical wrote:Not sure why the left leaning want Muslim immigration. Booze outlawed, gays jailed, women not allowed to vote, atheists jailed for blasphemy; thats what enough Muslims will get you.
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So would I, but a jihadist neighbour would make that 50/50...rainbow wrote:Drivel.Tyrannical wrote:Not sure why the left leaning want Muslim immigration. Booze outlawed, gays jailed, women not allowed to vote, atheists jailed for blasphemy; thats what enough Muslims will get you.
I'd rather have a moderate Muslim neighbour than some raving racist idiot.
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Because you are immune to both reason and facts.rEvolutionist wrote:No, it's your uncritical analysis coupled with your apologetics for Christianity that mark you out as a likely religionist.
Oh, and how am I "hopeless"?
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Marxists.rEvolutionist wrote:By what?
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Atheists JAILED for blasphemy? Hardly. It's "Atheists publicly beheaded for being Atheists."Tyrannical wrote:Not sure why the left leaning want Muslim immigration. Booze outlawed, gays jailed, women not allowed to vote, atheists jailed for blasphemy; thats what enough Muslims will get you.
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Oh, so NOW you want to rely on a constitution because Islam may jeopardize your atheism. You NOW claim you have some natural, unalienable fundamental right to be an Atheist? To have a secular government? To be free of religious oppression by the majority?rEvolutionist wrote:In countries with a decent constitution that simply can't happen. It also relies on made up shit that every Muslim wants that. Basically, it's bigotted, which is no surprise coming from you.Tyrannical wrote:Not sure why the left leaning want Muslim immigration. Booze outlawed, gays jailed, women not allowed to vote, atheists jailed for blasphemy; thats what enough Muslims will get you.
But if the Islamists take power and become the majority, which is entirely possible in time (and is their precise intention because they play the long game), they will "democratically" vote in Sharia and then what will you have to complain about? It's democracy after all.
On what rational basis, consistent with your routine arguments against "natural" or "unalienable" rights can you possibly object to the majority imposing Sharia law on you and chopping your head off for being an Atheist?
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The problem is in accurately distinguishing between a "moderate" Muslim neighbor and a sleeper-cell member of radical Islam who will smile and shake your hand as he slips a knife between your ribs because you're an infidel.rainbow wrote:Drivel.Tyrannical wrote:Not sure why the left leaning want Muslim immigration. Booze outlawed, gays jailed, women not allowed to vote, atheists jailed for blasphemy; thats what enough Muslims will get you.
I'd rather have a moderate Muslim neighbour than some raving racist idiot.
At least a raving racist idiot wears his racism on his sleeve and therefore his behavior can be pretty accurately predicted and defended against.
The same cannot be said of Muslims, who are exhorted by Mohammed to smile and lie to your face while planning to kill you and everyone you know.
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I'd rather have an unknown white American neighbour, than an unknown Muslim.rainbow wrote:Drivel.Tyrannical wrote:Not sure why the left leaning want Muslim immigration. Booze outlawed, gays jailed, women not allowed to vote, atheists jailed for blasphemy; thats what enough Muslims will get you.
I'd rather have a moderate Muslim neighbour than some raving racist idiot.
But there's very little in it. I have a feeling that the Muslim would be less likely to bother you, and less nosy. But less likely to be a friend.
I had Muslim neighbours once, and they were no problem. But their kids were young then. Don't know what they're like now. That was decades ago.
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That would be funny if it wasn't so sad coming from you. Seriously, it's about time you retire and get on with something else in your life. You are failing at this miserably.Seth wrote:Because you are immune to both reason and facts.rEvolutionist wrote:No, it's your uncritical analysis coupled with your apologetics for Christianity that mark you out as a likely religionist.
Oh, and how am I "hopeless"?
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Can you not read?!? I didn't claim any such bollocks about "natural, unalienable fundamental right". I discussed constitutions. And as they are none of the bollocks that you just mentioned, your reply is a non-sequitur, as usual.Seth wrote:Oh, so NOW you want to rely on a constitution because Islam may jeopardize your atheism. You NOW claim you have some natural, unalienable fundamental right to be an Atheist? To have a secular government? To be free of religious oppression by the majority?rEvolutionist wrote:In countries with a decent constitution that simply can't happen. It also relies on made up shit that every Muslim wants that. Basically, it's bigotted, which is no surprise coming from you.Tyrannical wrote:Not sure why the left leaning want Muslim immigration. Booze outlawed, gays jailed, women not allowed to vote, atheists jailed for blasphemy; thats what enough Muslims will get you.
But if the Islamists take power and become the majority, which is entirely possible in time (and is their precise intention because they play the long game), they will "democratically" vote in Sharia and then what will you have to complain about? It's democracy after all.
See my next post to Tyrannical. When you need supermajorities (and even more so in a number of separate domains (like state vs national)) it's almost impossible for it to happen for one group. You and T are scared little children.
On what rational basis, consistent with your routine arguments against "natural" or "unalienable" rights can you possibly object to the majority imposing Sharia law on you and chopping your head off for being an Atheist?
Well, in terms of constitutions alone, I don't object to it in a structural sense, but it's just not going to happen. Even if 100% of the population was to become Muslim (which it's not) you'd need at least 66% of Muslims to support sharia. If you think that Muslims in the west support Sharia to that level, you are off your tree. Which, we well know you are, not just from this thread alone.

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Collector1337 wrote:You've been brainwashed.rEvolutionist wrote: Oh, and how am I "hopeless"?
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