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Post by cronus » Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:45 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35360113

Oscars 2016: George Clooney and Lupita Nyong'o add to criticism

Oscar-winning actor George Clooney has accused the Academy Awards of "moving in the wrong direction" amid controversy over lack of diversity.
For the second year running, no black or minority actors have been nominated in the four Oscars acting categories.

Star Wars actress Lupita Nyong'o also said she is "disappointed by the lack of inclusion" in the nominations.
Academy president Cheryl Boone Isaacs vowed to review its membership as stars pledged to boycott the ceremony.

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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:47 pm

What a feminazi!! And don't get me started on Clooney! Fucken white knight dildo sucking mangina!
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rEvolutionist wrote:What a feminazi!! And don't get me started on Clooney! Fucken white knight dildo sucking mangina!
Sure is pretty, though...
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Post by Strontium Dog » Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:37 pm

It's the massive over-representation of Brits at the awards that is keeping the brothers down. 6 out of 20 acting nominations have gone to folk from these islands.
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Post by Animavore » Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:44 pm

Another 3 or 4 from Ireland too.
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Post by JimC » Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:53 pm

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If the proportion of blacks in the population is, what? 13 or 14%? And assuming the employees on films are approximately that same percentage, then only around 13 or 14% of the Academy would, in a proportionate world, be black. Would that change the outcome of voting?
If your figures are right (6% black at the moment), it would mean doubling the % of black people in the Academy, which would surely have an impact on voting.

Rum's point about the relative number of high-impact films with black leads is probably important as well...
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Post by Hermit » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:37 am

laklak wrote:My first thought was "does anyone give a shit about the Oscars?" Apparently the answer is yes, though I don't understand it.
People who get emotionally engaged by the Oscars don't realise or care that the body that runs the show, the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences, was started by Louis B. Mayer, head of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer as the promotion and publicity department of the Hollywood film making cartel. I regard the Oscars as engaging as a presentation cooked up by an umbrella body of the various Australian tourist bureaus celebrating the best of our nation's outback life.



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Post by Forty Two » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:32 pm

JimC wrote:
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If the proportion of blacks in the population is, what? 13 or 14%? And assuming the employees on films are approximately that same percentage, then only around 13 or 14% of the Academy would, in a proportionate world, be black. Would that change the outcome of voting?
If your figures are right (6% black at the moment), it would mean doubling the % of black people in the Academy, which would surely have an impact on voting.
How so? The winners still are by majority, and if whites tend to vote for whites and blacks tend to vote for blacks, the blacks will lose, whether they are 6% or 14%.
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Rum's point about the relative number of high-impact films with black leads is probably important as well...
Well, a lot of that probably is a function that the country is, like 83% white. That's a massive majority. It would be like complaining that there aren't enough black nominees in the German, UK or Norwegian film awards. They have like 90% white populations. Doesn't it stand to reason that most actors there will be white. I wouldn't expect Nigeria to be outraged that not more whites get major awards....
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:18 pm

Well, Marlon Brando skipped the 1973 Oscars and had Sasheen Littlefeather appear to reject the Oscar due to Hollywood's treatment of native Americans.

George C. Scott said it best when he said the politics surrounding the award were demeaning, and it was a two hour "goddamned meat parade." LOL. He was the first to actually refuse an Oscar. Awesome.
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Post by cronus » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:46 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35380343

Charlotte Rampling: Oscars diversity row 'racist to whites'

Oscar nominee Charlotte Rampling has called the ongoing row about the lack of diversity at this year's Academy Awards "racist against white people".
Asked by France's Europe 1 if she understood some black stars' decision to boycott the event, Rampling said: "No, I think it's the other way round."

"We can never know... But maybe it's because no black actors merited being nominated," she said.
Rampling, 69, has been shortlisted for best actress for her role in 45 Years.

Quizzed over Spike Lee's suggestion that quotas might need to be introduced for black, Asian and minority ethnic actors, after all 20 Oscar acting nominees were white for the second consecutive year, Rampling was dismissive.
"Why put people into categories? We live in a country now where everyone is more or less accepted. Problems will always be sought [people say] 'him, he's less attractive', 'him, he is too black', 'him, he is too white'… there will always be someone who comes out saying 'you are too something'."

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Post by Forty Two » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:12 pm

She didn't get the memo that it's impossible to be racist against white people.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:50 pm

There's a reason why it is actually pretty moronic to claim that blacks can be racist to white people. Just look at what she is claiming. That sums it up right there.
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Post by Forty Two » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:02 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:There's a reason why it is actually pretty moronic to claim that blacks can be racist to white people. Just look at what she is claiming. That sums it up right there.
You think black people can't be racist against white people?
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Re: Members of the Academy are Racists?

Post by laklak » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:20 pm

Not in Newspeak.
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