Who is the Conservatives' Jeremy Corbyn?

[MrJonno]

"Radical thinking' also includes leaving Europe, breaking up the UK, getting rid of ethnic minorities which seems to be on the agenda these days, its also very shit.

Yes Corbyn is Mr Social Media which is why he is a loser, you can really imagine your average 50-90 year old on facebook can't you and they are the real voters.

[pErvinalia]

Yeah, but if the youth mobilise, then that's a different story. And not every 50 yr old is a conservative cunt.

[MrJonno]

Youth mobilisation normally means sticking them in the army, used to be against national service mainly because I might get made to do it, but now what the hell I'm too old, could even make it a condition of getting the vote completing it. Young are a bit too busy getting drunk/trying to get on the housing ladder to do anything useful these days (not to mention not enough of them)

[mistermack]

Yeah, but if the youth mobilise, then that's a different story. And not every 50 yr old is a conservative cunt.

I'm afraid, as far as this country goes, you're living in a dream world.

We just had an election, months ago, if you want to know what is being mobilised at the moment. You don't need an "if". The facts are staring you in the face.

What the UK voter thinks and wants can be read from the result. They preferred a government that promised to spend less, and not to try to borrow it's way out of trouble.
In the end, you have to live within your means, and Labour made it clear that that wasn't their priority.
Labour could have pissed all over the Tories, if they had genuinely been determined to balance the books, but that's not what the party is like, right now. It's overrun by lefty activists, as evidenced by the election of Corbyn.
Milliband tried to hide it, as best he could, but the public saw through it.
I've always supported Labour, but not this lot. It's like having the Trade Unions running for election.

[MrJonno]

While sensible middle class economics are important you do need a leader who is at least media neutral Milliband wasn't the bacon sandwich really hurt him, sad but that's political reality.

Corbyn has the electoral charm of a combination of the reanimated corpse of Jimmy Saville and dog poo

[mistermack]

While sensible middle class economics are important you do need a leader who is at least media neutral Milliband wasn't the bacon sandwich really hurt him, sad but that's political reality.

Corbyn has the electoral charm of a combination of the reanimated corpse of Jimmy Saville and dog poo

I wouldn't actually say that. I think he's surprisingly good. Certainly miles better than Milliband.

It's what he actually thinks that bothers me.

[MrJonno]

Corbyn electoral charm is so poor (with middle class and older people) that its irrelevant what he thinks. A major part of that is him but the media has helped in destroying him obviously. In the unlikely event he is around in 5 years time he will still be the man who thought killing Obama was a tragedy and doesn't want terrorists shot dead on the streets.

Plenty of people weren't sure about Milliband , no one is unsure about Corbyn (either way).
Put it another way if the Daily Mail and the Sun aren't at least neutral about you then you will not win, is there a single media outlet in the country that supports Corbyn (apart from the Morning Star)

[mistermack]

Corbyn electoral charm is so poor (with middle class and older people) that its irrelevant what he thinks. A major part of that is him but the media has helped in destroying him obviously. In the unlikely event he is around in 5 years time he will still be the man who thought killing Obama was a tragedy and doesn't want terrorists shot dead on the streets.

Plenty of people weren't sure about Milliband , no one is unsure about Corbyn (either way).
Put it another way if the Daily Mail and the Sun aren't at least neutral about you then you will not win, is there a single media outlet in the country that supports Corbyn (apart from the Morning Star)

He said that it was a tragedy that Osama wasn't taken alive, because he would have been more valuable alive. Perhaps it was. A bit of waterboarding in Guantanamo might have produced loads of vital information.
Maybe he was taken alive. Don't believe all you are fed.

Anyway, I was just talking about how he comes across personally on the tv. And he is streets ahead of Milliband. Most people are. His actual presentation and debating skills are quite impressive, in that he comes across as rational and normal and sincere.

Of course the Murdoch empire and the rest will rubbish him. They would rubbish any Labour leader. But he's not such a sitting duck as Milliband personally.
But, unfortunately for him, they have huge quantities of ammunition on the policy front.

[MrJonno]

I know what Corbyn said but the public only cares about what the media said he said. The truth is whatever people believe. Corbyn is soft on terrorism (bad) and Cameron has sex with pigs (funny but not that important)

[JimC]

mistermack Galaxian wrote:

Maybe he was taken alive. Don't believe all you are fed.

[mistermack]

mistermack Galaxian wrote:

Maybe he was taken alive. Don't believe all you are fed.

I wasn't there, and didn't pay much attention at the time.
I suppose it depends whether any independent people saw him killed and survived to verify it.

If they did kill him, I think they missed a trick though.
Say he was dead, AND have him for questioning. I'd go for that if I was President.

[pErvinalia]

I reckon Jonno is the conservatives' Jeremy Corbyn.

[DaveDodo007]

It has got to be Iain Duncan Smith.

"Disabled people should have to work their way out poverty and not simply be taken out of it by state financial assistance."

[pErvinalia]

He really is an evil piece of shit. How many people have died due to his inhuman policies?

[MrJonno]

If he is evil then so is most the population