Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

[Hermit]

Of course women should speak first, then retire to the parlor. We'll take their suggestions under advisement over cigars and cognac in the billiards room.

[pErvinalia]

Regarding your last paragraph, that's one opinion. Regarding the rest, equality is the goal, so boosting women (or POC) is not necessarily incompatible with that.

That's your opinion.

Well it's one backed by logic and reason. The logic is clear, unless one struggles with logic...

[Brian Peacock]

DaveDildo can't even define feminism in the first place. How seriously are we to take any of his opinions then no matter how vociferously stated?

How many feminists does it take to define feminism?

Eight: One to change the light bulb and seven to organise a conference about how a man would've wanted a medal for doing it.

[JimC]

[Forty Two]

Regarding your last paragraph, that's one opinion. Regarding the rest, equality is the goal, so boosting women (or POC) is not necessarily incompatible with that.

That's your opinion.

Well it's one backed by logic and reason. The logic is clear, unless one struggles with logic...

....with which you appear to struggle.

Like prominent feminist activist Julie Bindel said on November 28, 2014, during a debate on feminism vs. Islam -- "i think equality is for cowards.....if we have 50% of women in Parliament in the UK, guess who'd shout the loudest and down the other 50% out? We need far more than 50%..."

The goal is to be greater than equal. More than equality is needed in order to have equality. That's the logic.

Professor Haiven from Dalhousie University in Canada said in January 2015 that what is needed are enforced policies preferencing women to "speak first." If there is a discussion at university, women are to speak first, and men later. If there is to be a panel discussion, and no women are on the panel, then the discussion is not to take place. Equality means women speak first and men cannot hold panel discussions without women on the panel. No similar policy put in place for panel discussions to be canceled if no men are represented. Equality.

Feminism seeks equal representation of women in the boardroom, the medical office, the law office, the bank and the accounting firm, but not the trash collection truck, the mines, the sewers and septic tanks, the power lines, fishing boats, logging crews, roofs, iron and steel foundries and plants, construction sites, and the like.....

You don't see feminism pushing for more shelters for men, even though men make up the vast majority of the homeless. There are virtually no abuse support centers for men, and thousands and thousands of them for women, even though men are nearly 50% of abuse victims. You don't see a push for equality in child custody, support and alimony - not from feminists. You don't see any concern from feminists that 97% of workplace fatalities and the vast majority of injuries in the workplace are men.

It's about equality where desirable, and privilege everywhere else.

[JimC]

Forty Two wrote:

...Like prominent feminist activist Julie Bindel said on November 28, 2014, during a debate on feminism vs. Islam -- "i think equality is for cowards.....if we have 50% of women in Parliament in the UK, guess who'd shout the loudest and down the other 50% out? We need far more than 50%..."...

Do you honestly think that's a mainstream feminist position?

It's an ambit claim from someone positioning themselves on the extreme wing of feminism for political reasons...

[DaveDodo007]

Forty Two wrote:

...Like prominent feminist activist Julie Bindel said on November 28, 2014, during a debate on feminism vs. Islam -- "i think equality is for cowards.....if we have 50% of women in Parliament in the UK, guess who'd shout the loudest and down the other 50% out? We need far more than 50%..."...

Do you honestly think that's a mainstream feminist position?

It's an ambit claim from someone positioning themselves on the extreme wing of feminism for political reasons...

That's one of the nicest things she said about men and this cunt is allowed to spout her toxic evil on TV, radio and in the press.

https://hequal.wordpress.com/2015/09/05 ... r-all-men/

Adolf Hitler had to rule a country to expose such views.

Yeah but feminism is all about equality my arse.

When I see other feminists ostracize her for her opinions then get back to me. The only time feminists criticize her is for her transphobic views, hate males, well they have no problem with that. The self loathing pathetic mangina sad sacks on this site outdo a kink submission sub.

[surreptitious57]

When I see other feminists ostracize her for her opinions then get back to me

The self loathing pathetic maginas sad sacks on this site outdo a kink submission sub

I have absolutely no intention of doing anything of the short so do not be holding your breath. For I do not believe in denying anybody
free speech just because they think I belong in a concentration camp. But why do you care what she thinks anyway if you have such a
low opinion of her? By doing so you are letting her get to you which makes her psychologically stronger than you. I doubt very much if
anything you said about her would have the same effect. Calling her a cunt does not do it as that is about as unoriginal as it gets. But
any way she cares far less about what you think than you do about what she thinks. Remember that next time you go in to rant mode

Now if you think I am a mangina because of such opinions that bothers me about as much as it does Julie Bindel thinking I should be in
a concentration camp. Although I also agree with you one hundred per cent about issues such as male suicide and male rape which are
serious subjects in their own right. So then may be not such a magina after all though I really do not care which adjectives you wish to
describe me now. Because unlike you I believe in absolute free speech and so you can call me what ever you want. Words on computer
screens are no threat to me whether they be yours or Julie Bindels or somebody elses. And as such I do not want to see them censored

[Forty Two]

Forty Two wrote:

...Like prominent feminist activist Julie Bindel said on November 28, 2014, during a debate on feminism vs. Islam -- "i think equality is for cowards.....if we have 50% of women in Parliament in the UK, guess who'd shout the loudest and down the other 50% out? We need far more than 50%..."...

Do you honestly think that's a mainstream feminist position?

Yes, because such viewpoints -- non-equality based viewpoints - are expressed commonly by prominent feminists in public without objection or debate from their audiences. Take the Canadian professor who said that university policies should be for women to speak first and be preferred on "platforms" (and that no all-male panel discussions should ever be had). Not only did she receive no push-back or even questioning from her fellow feminist panelists in that conference, but the audience resoundingly applauded.

It's an ambit claim from someone positioning themselves on the extreme wing of feminism for political reasons...

Is it? Can you cite to me a mainstream feminist who publishes plainly that what is desired is equal opportunity and equal treatment under the law? What I find is that even when they say on the one hand that "feminism just means equality," when you look at the things they propose, they are not really about equality.

[DaveDodo007]

When I see other feminists ostracize her for her opinions then get back to me

The self loathing pathetic maginas sad sacks on this site outdo a kink submission sub

I have absolutely no intention of doing anything of the short so do not be holding your breath. For I do not believe in denying anybody
free speech just because they think I belong in a concentration camp. But why do you care what she thinks anyway if you have such a
low opinion of her? By doing so you are letting her get to you which makes her psychologically stronger than you. I doubt very much if
anything you said about her would have the same effect. Calling her a cunt does not do it as that is about as unoriginal as it gets. But
any way she cares far less about what you think than you do about what she thinks. Remember that next time you go in to rant mode

Now if you think I am a mangina because of such opinions that bothers me about as much as it does Julie Bindel thinking I should be in
a concentration camp. Although I also agree with you one hundred per cent about issues such as male suicide and male rape which are
serious subjects in their own right. So then may be not such a magina after all though I really do not care which adjectives you wish to
describe me now. Because unlike you I believe in absolute free speech and so you can call me what ever you want. Words on computer
screens are no threat to me whether they be yours or Julie Bindels or somebody elses. And as such I do not want to see them censored

I never said she should be censored and I never will, though those who don't distance themselves or critique her views are offering tacit support.

[Jason]

When I see other feminists ostracize her for her opinions then get back to me

The self loathing pathetic maginas sad sacks on this site outdo a kink submission sub

I have absolutely no intention of doing anything of the short so do not be holding your breath. For I do not believe in denying anybody
free speech just because they think I belong in a concentration camp. But why do you care what she thinks anyway if you have such a
low opinion of her? By doing so you are letting her get to you which makes her psychologically stronger than you. I doubt very much if
anything you said about her would have the same effect. Calling her a cunt does not do it as that is about as unoriginal as it gets. But
any way she cares far less about what you think than you do about what she thinks. Remember that next time you go in to rant mode

Now if you think I am a mangina because of such opinions that bothers me about as much as it does Julie Bindel thinking I should be in
a concentration camp. Although I also agree with you one hundred per cent about issues such as male suicide and male rape which are
serious subjects in their own right. So then may be not such a magina after all though I really do not care which adjectives you wish to
describe me now. Because unlike you I believe in absolute free speech and so you can call me what ever you want. Words on computer
screens are no threat to me whether they be yours or Julie Bindels or somebody elses. And as such I do not want to see them censored

I never said she should be censored and I never will, though those who don't distance themselves or critique her views are offering tacit support.

Moronic. Does ignoring a racist make you a racist as well?

[DaveDodo007]

When I see other feminists ostracize her for her opinions then get back to me

The self loathing pathetic maginas sad sacks on this site outdo a kink submission sub

I have absolutely no intention of doing anything of the short so do not be holding your breath. For I do not believe in denying anybody
free speech just because they think I belong in a concentration camp. But why do you care what she thinks anyway if you have such a
low opinion of her? By doing so you are letting her get to you which makes her psychologically stronger than you. I doubt very much if
anything you said about her would have the same effect. Calling her a cunt does not do it as that is about as unoriginal as it gets. But
any way she cares far less about what you think than you do about what she thinks. Remember that next time you go in to rant mode

Now if you think I am a mangina because of such opinions that bothers me about as much as it does Julie Bindel thinking I should be in
a concentration camp. Although I also agree with you one hundred per cent about issues such as male suicide and male rape which are
serious subjects in their own right. So then may be not such a magina after all though I really do not care which adjectives you wish to
describe me now. Because unlike you I believe in absolute free speech and so you can call me what ever you want. Words on computer
screens are no threat to me whether they be yours or Julie Bindels or somebody elses. And as such I do not want to see them censored

I never said she should be censored and I never will, though those who don't distance themselves or critique her views are offering tacit support.

Moronic. Does ignoring a racist make you a racist as well?

Yes, especially if they are part of your movement and you take no steps to point out that their views are not the views of your group. Feminism has genocidal totalm

[pErvinalia]

Regarding your last paragraph, that's one opinion. Regarding the rest, equality is the goal, so boosting women (or POC) is not necessarily incompatible with that.

That's your opinion.

Well it's one backed by logic and reason. The logic is clear, unless one struggles with logic...

....with which you appear to struggle.

Like prominent feminist activist Julie Bindel said on November 28, 2014, during a debate on feminism vs. Islam -- "i think equality is for cowards.....if we have 50% of women in Parliament in the UK, guess who'd shout the loudest and down the other 50% out? We need far more than 50%..."

The goal is to be greater than equal. More than equality is needed in order to have equality. That's the logic.

Professor Haiven from Dalhousie University in Canada said in January 2015 that what is needed are enforced policies preferencing women to "speak first." If there is a discussion at university, women are to speak first, and men later. If there is to be a panel discussion, and no women are on the panel, then the discussion is not to take place. Equality means women speak first and men cannot hold panel discussions without women on the panel. No similar policy put in place for panel discussions to be canceled if no men are represented. Equality.

Feminism seeks equal representation of women in the boardroom, the medical office, the law office, the bank and the accounting firm, but not the trash collection truck, the mines, the sewers and septic tanks, the power lines, fishing boats, logging crews, roofs, iron and steel foundries and plants, construction sites, and the like.....

You don't see feminism pushing for more shelters for men, even though men make up the vast majority of the homeless. There are virtually no abuse support centers for men, and thousands and thousands of them for women, even though men are nearly 50% of abuse victims. You don't see a push for equality in child custody, support and alimony - not from feminists. You don't see any concern from feminists that 97% of workplace fatalities and the vast majority of injuries in the workplace are men.

It's about equality where desirable, and privilege everywhere else.

That's got nothing to do with logic. That's simply your opinion of what you think feminism is.

If equality is the ultimate goal, then boosting women and POC isn't necessarily incompatible with that. The logic is absolutely sound. You apparently don't understand logic.

[pErvinalia]

Forty Two wrote:

...Like prominent feminist activist Julie Bindel said on November 28, 2014, during a debate on feminism vs. Islam -- "i think equality is for cowards.....if we have 50% of women in Parliament in the UK, guess who'd shout the loudest and down the other 50% out? We need far more than 50%..."...

Do you honestly think that's a mainstream feminist position?

It's an ambit claim from someone positioning themselves on the extreme wing of feminism for political reasons...

[pErvinalia]

Forty Two wrote:

...Like prominent feminist activist Julie Bindel said on November 28, 2014, during a debate on feminism vs. Islam -- "i think equality is for cowards.....if we have 50% of women in Parliament in the UK, guess who'd shout the loudest and down the other 50% out? We need far more than 50%..."...

Do you honestly think that's a mainstream feminist position?

It's an ambit claim from someone positioning themselves on the extreme wing of feminism for political reasons...

That's one of the nicest things she said about men and this cunt is allowed to spout her toxic evil on TV, radio and in the press.

As I've said about you and Seth many times before, you guys aren't liberals/libertarians. Free speech for all, except those Dave Dodo has an irrational fear of?