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Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Post by Jason » Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:15 pm

So I've seen it and I've learned something: It's better to be ridiculous and bad than boring and dreck. The prequels were at times ridiculous and bad, but at least they established their pay-offs and developed their plot points. The Force Awakens does neither. Things just happen. Characters just do things. Nothing is ever established and it delivers pay-off after pay-off without ever paying the price of plot development which leaves me (as a thinking movie viewer who isn't mesmerized by special effects) almost entirely unmoved by them emotionally and intellectually. The special effects are top notch and it's a new big-screen romp in the Star Wars galaxy but it left the story telling Lucas injected into the franchise far, far away. It did give me the idea for George Lucas' epitaph though: "It's better to be ridiculous than dreck."

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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Post by cronus » Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:07 pm

The triumph of nihilism-light-sabre then?
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Post by Jason » Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:03 pm

Triumph of franchise name-power over good filmmaking at any rate. It has 95% on Rotten Tomatoes but I think it ranks more around 75% by rights. Everyone gives it a gold star because it's new Star Wars that doesn't have a Jar Jar equivalent and it has excellent visuals glossing over the fact that at no point during the film did it come close to the swell of feeling that any of the original trilogy evoked - even the prequels had moments that made me care about them. The Force Awakens is emotional flatland and don't hold out hope for an intellectually intriguing plot development - there is none.

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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:50 am

I enjoyed it. Never thought too hard about Star Wars. Just enjoyed it for what it was.
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Post by Rum » Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:50 pm

I have to agree. Saw it yesterday and was disappointed and actually a bit bored. My partner is a huge fan and so as not to spoil it for her (she thought it was wonderful!) I kept my opinion to myself.

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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Post by cronus » Thu Dec 24, 2015 2:10 pm

Rum wrote:I have to agree. Saw it yesterday and was disappointed and actually a bit bored. My partner is a huge fan and so as not to spoil it for her (she thought it was wonderful!) I kept my opinion to myself.
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Post by tattuchu » Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:13 pm

Was so bored i walked out before it ended. Only time I enjoyed it was when Harrison Ford and Chewy were onscreen.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:07 am

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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Post by Tero » Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:26 am

Summary: offspring of former star wars heroes do the same thing their parents did. Forces emerge, light sabers klank. Death star is big and has...trees?or was that some other battle?

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Post by Tero » Wed Dec 30, 2015 3:10 am

OK the trees have to do with a nearby moon and bunker.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Endor_sh ... tor_bunker

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Post by JimC » Wed Dec 30, 2015 3:27 am

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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Post by cronus » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:58 am

Special effects and hype make up for a substandard storyline like all Abrams stuff. I'll wait for the DVD, fools rushed in....where scumple doesn't waste a dime.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Post by Jason » Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:42 pm

It's not a shit movie, it's just not a good movie. What gets me is how everyone not only gives it a pass, but gives it a grade of A or A+. What the shit? Did we sell our critical faculties to Disney for the pathetic hope of a cultural artifact that would bond us with our children and the next generation? Fuck me it's like the world has gone full-on retard.

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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Post by PsychoSerenity » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:41 pm

It is awesome because it's Star Wars. There's no point in critically comparing it to other movies, other than other Star Wars movies and possibly in some cases other Sci-fi adventure movies, - because the awesomeness of Star Wars simply operates in a different dimension from other movies.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Post by cronus » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:00 pm

PsychoSerenity wrote:It is awesome because it's Star Wars. There's no point in critically comparing it to other movies, other than other Star Wars movies and possibly in some cases other Sci-fi adventure movies, - because the awesomeness of Star Wars simply operates in a different dimension from other movies.
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