Why is there something, rather than nothing ?

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Re: Why is there something, rather than nothing ?

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:04 pm

DRSB wrote:Everything is a function of what it is just as much as it is a function of what it is not. There must be a boundary in between because otherwise you cannot distinguish between the two. How do you know, for example, that a chair is a chair unless you know what a chair is NOT? Old Descartes was of a similar opinion and came up with the Cartesian quadrants.
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Re: Why is there something, rather than nothing ?

Post by JimC » Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:01 am

DRSB wrote:Everything is a function of what it is just as much as it is a function of what it is not. There must be a boundary in between because otherwise you cannot distinguish between the two. How do you know, for example, that a chair is a chair unless you know what a chair is NOT? Old Descartes was of a similar opinion and came up with the Cartesian quadrants.
There is an infinity of things that are not chairs...
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Re: Why is there something, rather than nothing ?

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:23 am

Forty Two wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:I always find these questions less profound than they purport to be. If there was nothing, we wouldn't be asking this question. That's why, in this instance, there is something. What am I missing?
Perhaps that the question is "why?"
There doesn't need to be a why. Reality just is.
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Re: Why is there something, rather than nothing ?

Post by Forty Two » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:44 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
Forty Two wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:I always find these questions less profound than they purport to be. If there was nothing, we wouldn't be asking this question. That's why, in this instance, there is something. What am I missing?
Perhaps that the question is "why?"
There doesn't need to be a why. Reality just is.
Agreed, but the OP is "why?" That's the question under discussion.
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Re: Why is there something, rather than nothing ?

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Dec 11, 2015 2:58 pm

Yeah, I'm pointing out it's not as profound as most people make it out to be.
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Re: Why is there something, rather than nothing ?

Post by Forty Two » Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:07 pm

Profundity, too, is in the eye of the beerholder.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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