Trump is an asshole, but......

[Seth]

In your OP you asked 'what rights would it [his "ban muslims from coming" thing] contravene'. I pointed out one such right.

What "right" was that again? I can't seem to find any reference by you to a "right" Trump proposes to contravene. Can you clarify?

[Rum]

"As a city where more than 300 languages are spoken, London has a proud history of tolerance and diversity and to suggest there are areas where police officers cannot go because of radicalisation is simply ridiculous."

Except of course that it's true.

As it happens it isn't. Have you ben to London recently? I have. As ever you talk shit.

[Jason]

More likely to score with the one on the left. The one on the right is way too serious for my liking, looks like she's packing semtex and grenades....

In all probability the one on the left just forgot hers in the bunker. I'm sure hubby could run home to get it on demand.

She's not gonna use it to express her sexual passions like the other one though...

Not unless the FBI comes for her gunz. Then it's Oklahoma! baby.

[Seth]

He's onto a winner with the "ban muslims from coming" thing.

Firstly, why not?

Because it's fascist nonsense?

Who needs em? And what rights does it actually contravene?

You obviously haven't swatted up on this issue very well. He wants to ban American muslims from returning as well. That would seem to pretty seriously contravene the Constitution.

Actually, in Merka, any law involving discrimination on a religious basis is in direct contradiction to the First Amendment, ergo, invalid.

I'm not sure if that's true. The first amendment only applies to Mercan citizens. So they could ban foreign muslims ok, I think. The more pertinent points would be if it violates any international treaties, and more definitively firm treaties with other countries about allowing reasonably free access to each other's countries.

And have we signed any such treaties with anyone? I don't think so. We're not like the EU because we're not stupid enough to give up our national sovereignty in the interests of Marxist solidarity. We do have some agreements with other nations, but those agreements are not treaties and therefore we are free to change them whenever it is necessary to do so. The worst sanction we face from not allowing "free access" is that the other country starts doing the same thing to our citizens, which is fine by me.

[Seth]

You need to review your reading comprehension skills. It says without a shadow of a doubt that his original proposal was to ban ALL muslims from entering the US, INCLUDING US muslim citizens. dig dig dig. It's the same old story. "Arguments" or "Opinions"? What are we calling them these days?

And he amended that right away, so you're presenting an argument that is now a non-sequitur. Why do you persist?

[Seth]

You're providing me a perfect reminder of why I came to hate this place.

Asked by The Hill whether that would include American Muslims currently abroad, Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks replied over email: “Mr. Trump says, ‘everyone.’ ”

Wayback Machine fallacy. You're clinging to a statement that has been revised to comply with Constitutional requirements that was probably simply a misstatement by either Trump or his spokesperson.

[Seth]

She's his spokeswoman. Do you understand plain English?? She quoted him directly!

“Mr. Trump says, ‘everyone.’ ”

I made it bigger for you to help you out.

She's mistaken. Let it go.

[Seth]

"As a city where more than 300 languages are spoken, London has a proud history of tolerance and diversity and to suggest there are areas where police officers cannot go because of radicalisation is simply ridiculous."

Except of course that it's true.

As it happens it isn't. Have you ben to London recently? I have. As ever you talk shit.

As it happens it is. Have you been to all places in London lately? As ever you know shit.

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Two Police Officers Reportedly Come Forward and Claim One of Donald Trump’s Most Controversial Statements Is True
Dec. 9, 2015 11:02am Kaitlyn Schallhorn
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Two police officers have reportedly corroborated Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s claim that London officers are frightened in heavily Muslim communities.

Trump has drawn ire for his many recent remarks regarding Muslims, including from the Scotland Yard when he said on MSNBC, “We have places in London and other places that are so radicalized that police are afraid of their own lives.”

The Scotland Yard addressed that comment and slammed the real estate mogul as “he couldn’t be more wrong.”
Caption:NEWTON, IA - NOVEMBER 19: Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump speaks to guests following a town hall meeting at Des Moines Area Community College Newton Campus on November 19, 2015 in Newton, Iowa. Trump is currently leading the race for the Republican presidential nomination in Iowa. (Photo by Scott Olson/Getty Images)

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump. (Photo by Scott Olson/Getty Images)

“Trump’s not wrong,” one serving officer reportedly told the Daily Mail. “He pointed out something that is plainly obvious, something which I think we aren’t as a nation willing to own up to.”

Another police officer supposedly told the Daily Mail that he as well as other law enforcement officials are afraid that they could become targets of terrorism especially as they have received a “dire warning” from their superiors of wearing a uniform “even in my own car.”

The claims by the officers come as nearly 200,000 people have signed onto a petition that calls for the barring of Trump from Britain. As the petition states, Parliament is to consider petitions that garner more than 100,000 signatures.

[Jason]

From the Guardian:

[cronus]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35055626

Donald Trump: 'I will never leave this race' despite criticism

...

(continued, some sub-conscious racialist leakage in that remark...sir.)

[Jason]

It's a golden age of sophistry in social media - just the kind of mire and muck a capitalist pig like Trump is most at home in.

[JimC]

"As a city where more than 300 languages are spoken, London has a proud history of tolerance and diversity and to suggest there are areas where police officers cannot go because of radicalisation is simply ridiculous."

Except of course that it's true.

Ever been to London?

[laklak]

I was a tad nervous in Brixton.

As for the photograph, the one on the left has better tits. I'd hit it.

[DaveDodo007]

Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton what a choice. Who ever wins America is fucked. There must be more credible party leaders out there? What's the current polling like?

[Seth]

"As a city where more than 300 languages are spoken, London has a proud history of tolerance and diversity and to suggest there are areas where police officers cannot go because of radicalisation is simply ridiculous."

Except of course that it's true.

Ever been to London?

Yes. For further reference see this article, in which five British police officers confirm Trump's claims.