Ahmed Mohamed: 'Clock boy' seeks $15m from city and school

[Seth]

Oh, I will remember to the end of my days who let them in: Barack Obama and the Democrat Progressive/Marxists, all of whom should themselves be arrested, tried and executed for treason as well.

Wrong. The American people let them in. Because the US government is created by the American people at election time.

Not really. Only just over half (53.6%) of Americans voted in 2012 and 56.8% in 2008. Of that roughly half of the voting age population, Obama spent $760,370,195 in 2008 and received 69,498,516 votes, spending $10.94 per vote, while McCain spent $346,666,422, got 59,948,323 votes and spent $5.78 per vote.

Voter turnout is estimated to be between roughly 61% and 63%, which is high for recent presidential elections.

Obama won the popular vote by 52.93% to 45.65% for McCain, a difference of 7.28%.

In 2012, Obama received 65,915,796 votes, Romney 60,933,500, which comes to 51.1% for Obama and 47.2% for Romney, a difference of 3.9%.

Obama was elected because the Republican candidates were a load of shite.

45.65 and 47.2 percent of voters voting in the respective elections disagree, and only 57.5% of all eligible voters actually voted in the 2012 election.

Most importantly, voting for President cannot be seen as acquiescence to absolutely anything that President or the majority Congress might do while in office, not by any stretch of the imagination.

So no, "the American people" did not vote to let radical Muslims into the United States. Obama and the Democrats are completely responsible for that because they are the ones who have refused to secure the borders and control immigration. Why? Because they want more welfare-dependent, illiterate Mexicans to become citizens so that the Democrats can control their vote by threatening their welfare benefits in order to advance Marxism and Progressivism, and for no other reason whatsoever. The influx of Islamic terrorists is merely an artifact of this entirely political decision to deliberately leave our borders unsecured, but Obama and the Democrats are fully and completely responsible for it because they controlled both the House, Senate and Oval Office and chose not to act when they could have done so, and even today they obstruct (and veto) every Republican attempt to secure the borders because it threatens their Cloward and Piven strategy of overwhelming the system with illegal aliens who are then anointed by Obama as citizens with the right to vote.

The country gets the mis-management it deserves. That's democracy. In any case, if you check, you will find that Muslims were flooding into the US during Bush's time, just as now. In fact, it was Bush's wars that gave them the excuse.

I'd have to see your evidence showing that "Muslims were flooding into the US during Bush's time." I don't believe that is actually true. In any event that's not really relevant because Obama has the hot potato at the moment and it is within his power to deploy the Army, Navy and Air Force, not to mention the National Guard to our borders if he chooses to do so. He does not, and he does not do so deliberately, for the reasons described above, which in my view makes him guilty of treason.

[Seth]

Contain the army in one place and never let them out and you contain the danger to everyone else

This might have worked when Islam was in its infancy but it is no good now. For one thing how exactly would you contain them?
Would you make it illegal for them to travel beyond their own borders? Even supposing that that was achievable how would you
prevent the spread of information? Would you deny internet access to the entire Muslim world? And what about those outside of
it who wanted to become radicalised? Would you deny them internet access too? Do you see how impractical all this is? If it was
that simple terrorism would no longer exist. The fact of the matter is that there are no easy solutions. And especially when you
are dealing with those not at all afraid to die for what they believe in

Indeed. Would Seth like to see Muslims barred from practising their religion entirely simply because he asserts every Muslim is defined by the actions of a radical few?

The problem is that we cannot be certain that it is only "a radical few" involved in the Islam-wide conspiracy to commit treason in the United States.

It's a sharp irony that those defenders of Christianity who are so quick to define all Muslims by the actions of a radical few, and then call for oppressive measures to be applied to Muslims at large, would not countenance the same thing being applied to them and are exactly the ones who are advocating social and military solutions every bit as reprehensible as the Jihadists whenever they cite their own religious preferences in justification.

I cite no religious preference at all and if we see Christian terrorist movements supported by Christian churches in the US I will make the same recommendation with respect to them. Or Buddhist terrorist movements. Or Communist terrorist movements. Or fascist terrorist movements. or any other terrorist movement being actively supported and recruited for by any group anywhere in the US. I will call for the arrest and trials for treason for ANYONE who commits treasonous acts as defined in the statute. I will also support the enactment of a new sedition law that makes advocacy of violent overthrow of the US government a criminal offense that, at the very least, strips such advocates of their US citizenship and debars them from enjoying the rights that the system they wish to destroy provides loyal citizens.

If you don't like our system enough to refrain from advocating or participating in attempts to overthrow it, then I see no reason why you should be permitted to enjoy it's benefits and protections. You are free to renounce your citizenship and find another country more suited to your political ideals, but you are not welcome here and should be stripped of the benefits you revile and deported.

[Seth]

Oh, I will remember to the end of my days who let them in: Barack Obama and the Democrat Progressive/Marxists, all of whom should themselves be arrested, tried and executed for treason as well.

Wrong. The American people let them in. Because the US government is created by the American people at election time.
Obama was elected because the Republican candidates were a load of shite.
Right now we've got the Conservatives because Labour are a load of shite.

The country gets the mis-management it deserves. That's democracy. In any case, if you check, you will find that Muslims were flooding into the US during Bush's time, just as now. In fact, it was Bush's wars that gave them the excuse.

Bloody terrorist coming over here and stealing jobs from our own home grown terrorists.

As if the mass shootings of Jihadits is any different than the mass shootings of regular home grown cranks and nutters.

We got into all this because Seth wanted to justify Anthraxing a 14 year old school boy for being a Muslim. Everything he's said subsequently to justify that remark marks him out as a someone who maintains that wherever it is they are proposing is always justified because they are the ones proposing it. He is of the 'Never Wrong' brigade. If only the whole world thought as Seth, acted as Seth, and believed Seth, then we'd all be better off, and Seth would be acknowledged as 'The One', the hero of the world and a true light to guide us through the darkness.

(blush) Well, yeah, of course. Make me King of the World and I'll fix everything very quickly.

[Brian Peacock]

Oh, I will remember to the end of my days who let them in: Barack Obama and the Democrat Progressive/Marxists, all of whom should themselves be arrested, tried and executed for treason as well.

Wrong. The American people let them in. Because the US government is created by the American people at election time.
Obama was elected because the Republican candidates were a load of shite.
Right now we've got the Conservatives because Labour are a load of shite.

The country gets the mis-management it deserves. That's democracy. In any case, if you check, you will find that Muslims were flooding into the US during Bush's time, just as now. In fact, it was Bush's wars that gave them the excuse.

Bloody terrorist coming over here and stealing jobs from our own home grown terrorists.

As if the mass shootings of Jihadits is any different than the mass shootings of regular home grown cranks and nutters.

We got into all this because Seth wanted to justify Anthraxing a 14 year old school boy for being a Muslim. Everything he's said subsequently to justify that remark marks him out as a someone who maintains that wherever it is they are proposing is always justified because they are the ones proposing it. He is of the 'Never Wrong' brigade. If only the whole world thought as Seth, acted as Seth, and believed Seth, then we'd all be better off, and Seth would be acknowledged as 'The One', the hero of the world and a true light to guide us through the darkness.

It's his amazing humility that makes him a true hero...

His chief weapon is humility. Humility and name calling...