Muslimic Fascists Massacre Disabled In Calafornia ??

[Jason]

Ah. Good. Galaxian has arrived. Now we can really get this party started.

[JimC]

Ah. Good. Galaxian has arrived. Now we can really get this party started.

He never lets the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy story!

[Seth]

If it is real it makes no difference to me. At best he's trying to make an argument from authority - asserting that psychology is unassailable to the layman is a hilariously transparent tactic to that end.

The fallacy of appeal to authority is not fallacious if the individual appealed to happens to be an authority on the subject in question, which is the case here. Therefore, your mendacious personal attacks, which are clearly merely diversionary tactics intended to derail the subject under discussion. Each time he meets your purported test of expertise, you simply deny the truth provided, as if this supports your argument, such as it is, about his qualifications, which are utterly irrelevant to the actual subject. The ONLY reason this came up is that you also denied his statement that he spends time alone in areas where his race makes him a target for racists and criminals, which is why he chooses to (prudently) carry a concealed weapon.

Instead of addressing the actual subject, which is whether, when and where it may be prudent to go about armed you undertake the classic fallacy of ad hominem attack because you cannot defend your position that nobody should go about armed. His qualifications, or lack thereof, as a psychologist has absolutely nothing to do with that, and you know it.

You are being blatantly intellectually dishonest and your personal attacks, like the one below, violate the FUA and should earn you at least a rebuke if not a vacation.

If he has an education it would come out in his ability to apprehend simple psych principles I laid out in layman's terms and not fall for the obvious Freudian shit I put out as well. He did not. He's a fraud or an idiot with a degree.

[Jason]

You are being blatantly intellectually dishonest and your personal attacks, like the one below, violate the FUA and should earn you at least a rebuke if not a vacation.

I have to frame that.. or I would if I actually gave a shit what an idiot like you thinks Seth. Take your friend the fake psychologist and hit the bricks. Or engage legitimately without me tricking you into it.

You've got just enough gray matter between those ears of yours that if you rub your temples really hard you can spark a neuron or two. Personal enough for you?

[Seth]

Well if your concealed carry hasn't been of any real use to you perhaps there's a hypothetical silver lining? You could have been at San Bernardino. You may have not been caught by surprise and may have killed those two before they killed so many other people.

And therein lies the whole point of an armed citizenry and concealed carry.

To arm the entire populace so you may carry a weapon you'll never use in defense and perpetuate a system of siege mentality that allows for ease of access to weapons that ease the problem of perpetuating mass murder - none of which has been prevented by armed civilians to date?

You're simply ignorantly wrong in this assertion because armed citizens have not only stopped mass shootings directly but also indirectly simply by being part of an armed populace.

You feel you must carry a gun because you're afraid.

And is it not rational to be afraid that some Muslim fanatic or other nutcase will try to shoot up the joint? Anti-gun liberals like you like to point to all the "gun murders" that take place, and all the mass shootings that take place (according to a new FBI report cited by the Denver Post in the B section of today's Sunday Denver Post there were 160 incidents in 13 years, with 486 people killed, excluding the shooters, which averages to 11.4 incidents per year) as an excuse to ban guns. But all that such statistics demonstrate is that law-abiding citizens face a verifiable need to be lawfully armed for self defense.

It's perfectly rational to fear armed attack by terrorists or anyone else because such attacks happen, all the time, all over the world, as in the UK tube incident where a Muslim extremist slit the throat of a victim. Because the nature of terrorism and random shootings, stabbings, bombings and other attacks caused by religion, derangement or political philosophy occur unpredictably and can occur literally anywhere, from a busy tube station in London to a tiny one-room Amish schoolhouse in Pennsylvania to a high school in Colorado to a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado to a church, to a street in England where the victim's head was chopped off in front of sheep-like UK citizens who stood there filming it with cellphones instead of even attempting to intervene, it is perfectly reasonable to go about armed in anticipation of the need to use a weapon to defend yourself or others against such criminal attacks.

Because you live in a culture of fear.

No, we live in a culture of reality and reason that examines the facts and responds in a logical, reasonable manner to threats which do actually exist.

You, however, live in a culture of sheep-like ignorance and denial, and therefore you will be slaughtered like sheep by the jackals of terrorism. Not me, not ever. And if that means that I have to go to the not inconsiderable inconvenience of going about armed every day for my entire life, so be it. It's my choice to make, not yours.

Because your country generates and perpetuates the myth of the unseen enemy lurking around every corner and in every darkened door frame your society has developed a siege mentality in which they must be prepared to do deadly battle with each other in the event that someone loses their shit in this culture of fear, legally picks up a gun from the 7/11, goes back to school, or comes to work, and starts to mow down people with discount bullets.

Which, the evidence shows us, happens 11.4 times per year in the US, in relatively random distribution nationally, but with a clear bias for those places where the carrying of guns by law-abiding citizens is banned.

Of course this type of hypothetical only serves to reinforce your asinine opinions that more guns are the answer because you're stuck in a vicious cycle where you respond to your fear with unthinking devotion to your courage totems (your guns dummy) which will likely never do any real good, but make you feel better even as you make your environment more dangerous.

Um, as the recent California incident demonstrates, it's not at all hypothetical, it's very, very real. And if my gun never does me any good, so what? It does no harm either and therefore there is no reason not to carry it if I choose to do so. My environment is not made "more dangerous" by my carrying a gun, it is made safer, as the crime rates in the US prove beyond any doubt.

Voluntary disarmament is the only way to live in a peaceful, sane, society.

Well, right up until some un-peaceful terrorist scumbags decide to raid your unarmed "peaceful,sane, society" and slaughter you in droves. But that too is your choice. I agree that "voluntary disarmament" is perfectly appropriate for any person. However, INvoluntary disarmament is not. It is entirely unacceptable and will not be countenanced, allowed or endured. Attempts to do so will be resisted with whatever degree of force, from political to lethal, that is required to prevent the involuntary disarmament of any, much less all law-abiding citizens. And that is precisely why the Constitution forbids our government from even attempting to do so.

Look at the crime statistics for Canada and the United States.

I did. They are going steadily downwards in the US even as the population of guns and the numbers of gun owners carrying lawfully in public swell.

Compare the numbers per capita of hugely dense areas like Toronto and New York, or Vancouver to Los Angeles. We like living in a voluntarily disarmed society - it's so much more peaceful and safe than living in an armed one. We lack your American siege mentality and live much healthier lives for it. We go about our daily lives without living in fear. We don't need to carry little courage totems - because we are free of the fear and terror they bring and cause in our society.

And you'll die on your knees screaming and weeping and pissing and shitting yourself in fear when the Islamic terrorists decide to target you and your "peaceful and safe" society as they did ours. And that's what you'll deserve, to be slaughtered like a goat, with your head being sawed off with a knife by a ten year old Jihadi as your family watches and waits to be next. And I will feel absolutely no sympathy for you when that happens because you made your bed and will have to lie in it...forever.

Fine by me, the world doesn't need sheeple anyway, they are just a drain on the economy and encourage cowardice in others.

[Jason]

Cue Seth reporting and gloating secretely over eliciting a 'personal' attack because he actually is an irredeemable troll that contributes nothing to this community while driving away members, new and returning, that actually have value to it.. in 3.. 2..

[Jason]

.. nothing I care about ..

I only responded to your post to use it as a proxy. I don't actually care what you think.

[Seth]

You are being blatantly intellectually dishonest and your personal attacks, like the one below, violate the FUA and should earn you at least a rebuke if not a vacation.

I have to frame that.. or I would if I actually gave a shit what an idiot like you thinks Seth. Take your friend the fake psychologist and hit the bricks. Or engage legitimately without me tricking you into it.

Why should we engage intellectually dishonest and overtly fallacious non sequiturs and irrelevancies, which is all you post?

Now, where are those Mods....?

[Seth]

.. nothing I care about ..

I only responded to your post to use it as a proxy. I don't actually care what you think.

The feeling is mutual and my response to you precisely the same. My posts are not intended for you, they are intended for those who might mistakenly think anything you have contributed is even remotely connected to reality or truth.

[Jason]

[Jason]

.. nothing I care about ..

I only responded to your post to use it as a proxy. I don't actually care what you think.

The feeling is mutual and my response to you precisely the same. My posts are not intended for you, they are intended for those who might mistakenly think anything you have contributed is even remotely connected to reality or truth.

And this is news to anyone? I think everyone knows you don't engage honestly and that you use everyone else as proxies to further your bullshitting. Everyone has known that for years. Remember when you were the cause of the huge schism in this community between those who knew you are a worthless, harmful, troll and wanted to ban you and those who knew you are a worthless, harmful, troll and wanted to just ignore or laugh at you?

You're not fooling anyone but yourself. You're either a joke or ignored. You're welcome for the 'news'.

[Jason]

[Seth]

.. nothing I care about ..

I only responded to your post to use it as a proxy. I don't actually care what you think.

The feeling is mutual and my response to you precisely the same. My posts are not intended for you, they are intended for those who might mistakenly think anything you have contributed is even remotely connected to reality or truth.

And this is news to anyone? I think everyone knows you don't engage honestly and that you use everyone else as proxies to further your bullshitting. Everyone has known that for years. Remember when you were the cause of the huge schism in this community between those who knew you are a worthless, harmful, troll and wanted to ban you and those who knew you are a worthless, harmful, troll and wanted to just ignore or laugh at you?

You're not fooling anyone but yourself. You're either a joke or ignored. You're welcome for the 'news'.

Gotta be rEv...Mods? Mods? Anyone? Anyone?

[Jason]

Personal huh..

[Jason]