Oh, the 60s....Brian Peacock wrote:laklak wrote:Well, they often use a balloon as a metaphor for an expanding universe, and the 5th Dimension took us up, up and away in a beautiful balloon.
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Why is there something, rather than nothing ?
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Re: Why is there something, rather than nothing ?
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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Re: Why is there something, rather than nothing ?
The 5th Dimension really holds the key.
Stephen Hawking should take a lesson. When the moon is in the seventh house, and Jupiter aligns with Mars, then peace will guide the planet, and love will steer the stars.
Stephen Hawking should take a lesson. When the moon is in the seventh house, and Jupiter aligns with Mars, then peace will guide the planet, and love will steer the stars.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
Re: Why is there something, rather than nothing ?
The point I was trying to make, and I believe Hawking is as well, is that the universe expands into the 5th dimension before the 4th..
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Re: Why is there something, rather than nothing ?
Since quantum effect can precede causes, maybe this just happened as a result of something that will happen in the future.Śiva wrote:The point I was trying to make, and I believe Hawking is as well, is that the universe expands into the 5th dimension before the 4th..
And, the apparent expansion of the universe may be an illusion. http://phys.org/news/2013-08-cosmologist-universe.html
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
Re: Why is there something, rather than nothing ?
Hawking's model covers a contracting universe, however his doesn't do anything extremely silly like having time running backward with babies plopping back into the womb and zombies being born out of their graves. 
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Re: Why is there something, rather than nothing ?
It's all extremely silly.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
Re: Why is there something, rather than nothing ?
Well this is 'general serious discussion'. I take it from your name that you have an absurdist view of science.
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Re: Why is there something, rather than nothing ?
Not particularly.Śiva wrote:Well this is 'general serious discussion'. I take it from your name that you have an absurdist view of science.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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OK.. so what did you mean by saying it's all extremely silly? 
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Re: Why is there something, rather than nothing ?
A bit of levity.Śiva wrote:OK.. so what did you mean by saying it's all extremely silly?
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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Re: Why is there something, rather than nothing ?
Counter-Clock World is one of my fav Dicks.Śiva wrote:Hawking's model covers a contracting universe, however his doesn't do anything extremely silly like having time running backward with babies plopping back into the womb and zombies being born out of their graves.
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Re: Why is there something, rather than nothing ?
Food for thought.Brian Peacock wrote:Counter-Clock World is one of my fav Dicks.Śiva wrote:Hawking's model covers a contracting universe, however his doesn't do anything extremely silly like having time running backward with babies plopping back into the womb and zombies being born out of their graves.
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Re: Why is there something, rather than nothing ?
I always find these questions less profound than they purport to be. If there was nothing, we wouldn't be asking this question. That's why, in this instance, there is something. What am I missing?
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Re: Why is there something, rather than nothing ?
Perhaps that the question is "why?"rEvolutionist wrote:I always find these questions less profound than they purport to be. If there was nothing, we wouldn't be asking this question. That's why, in this instance, there is something. What am I missing?
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
Re: Why is there something, rather than nothing ?
Everything is a function of what it is just as much as it is a function of what it is not. There must be a boundary in between because otherwise you cannot distinguish between the two. How do you know, for example, that a chair is a chair unless you know what a chair is NOT? Old Descartes was of a similar opinion and came up with the Cartesian quadrants.
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