And scientists wonder why they are misunderstood

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Re: And scientists wonder why they are misunderstood

Post by Seth » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:30 pm

mistermack wrote:
Seth wrote: Well, the gravity we know about, here, outside of black holes appears to be predictable in this region of space, assuming only four dimensions and no extra dimensions or universes. Then again, as Einstein suggested with respect to the speed of light, these conditions may only be a localized phenomenon. You have no idea what goes on with gravity inside a black hole. In fact, you don't even know what gravity actually is. Neither does science.

By the way, nobody has "seen" Hawking radiation yet. It's still all theoretical.
:funny: So are micro black holes, you dunderhead !. So why are you shitting yourself?
Because they say they might create one.
You are very selective in what you choose to believe. Scientists are right, that they can create micro black holes, but wrong, that they would evaporate in a tiny fraction of a micro-second.
You accept theory, when it suits you, and rubbish it when it doesn't.
If the theory might lead to the eventual total destruction of the planet, yes, I'm inclined to "believe" what they say for the purpose of arguing that they should not be permitted to do anything that comes anywhere near creating that risk. By the way, did you read about the tiny particle accelerators that have been invented that are smaller than a pencil point that use light to accelerate the particles and therefore don't have to be huge? Great, now we can produce deadly gamma radiation at home, and maybe create our very own pet black holes to play with in our living rooms.

Evidently science has forgotten about Pandora and her box.
Actually, people DO claim to have seen Hawking radiation, by creating an event horizon in the lab, using powerful lazers. Like all science, it's not formally accepted until it's been repeated over and over, and every other possibility has been eliminated. And even then, nobody claims 100% certainty.
Yes, I know, and the operative word there is "claim."
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Re: And scientists wonder why they are misunderstood

Post by JimC » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:14 pm

If ignorance is bliss, Seth must be pretty fucking happy... :{D
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Re: And scientists wonder why they are misunderstood

Post by Jason » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:59 pm

Suck it Seth. Live long and suck it.

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Re: And scientists wonder why they are misunderstood

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:40 am

JimC wrote:If ignorance is bliss, Seth must be pretty fucking happy... :{D
There's no shame or scandal in being ignorant, it is after all just the absence of knowledge and signifies nothing more or less than that. However, arguing from a position of ignorance is fallacious, particularly in the face of ignorance-banishing informations and counter-argument, while choosing to remain ignorant in order to assert the primacy of one's ignorant position is wholly disingenuous, not to mention intellectually bankrupt. Unfortunately, some people are so wedded to the notion of being right, and so insistent in their demands that others accept and acknowledge it, that they consider a state of wilful ignorance a personal virtue - which is exactly what we see from religious apologists all the time.
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Re: And scientists wonder why they are misunderstood

Post by rainbow » Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:36 am

JimC wrote:If ignorance is bliss, Seth must be pretty fucking happy... :{D
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Re: And scientists wonder why they are misunderstood

Post by Jason » Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:37 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
JimC wrote:If ignorance is bliss, Seth must be pretty fucking happy... :{D
There's no shame or scandal in being ignorant, it is after all just the absence of knowledge and signifies nothing more or less than that. However, arguing from a position of ignorance is fallacious, particularly in the face of ignorance-banishing informations and counter-argument, while choosing to remain ignorant in order to assert the primacy of one's ignorant position is wholly disingenuous, not to mention intellectually bankrupt. Unfortunately, some people are so wedded to the notion of being right, and so insistent in their demands that others accept and acknowledge it, that they consider a state of wilful ignorance a personal virtue - which is exactly what we see from religious apologists all the time.
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Re: And scientists wonder why they are misunderstood

Post by Seth » Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:49 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
JimC wrote:If ignorance is bliss, Seth must be pretty fucking happy... :{D
There's no shame or scandal in being ignorant, it is after all just the absence of knowledge and signifies nothing more or less than that. However, arguing from a position of ignorance is fallacious, particularly in the face of ignorance-banishing informations and counter-argument, while choosing to remain ignorant in order to assert the primacy of one's ignorant position is wholly disingenuous, not to mention intellectually bankrupt. Unfortunately, some people are so wedded to the notion of being right, and so insistent in their demands that others accept and acknowledge it, that they consider a state of wilful ignorance a personal virtue - which is exactly what we see from religious apologists all the time.
Being all Socratic and junk is a burden sometimes, but somebody's got to do it.
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Re: And scientists wonder why they are misunderstood

Post by mistermack » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:10 am

In actual fact, it's scientifically impossible for Cern to destroy the world with a black hole.

God wouldn't allow it, because he has told us, via prophets, that he will come again, and everything will be just dandy. After he has defeated the devil that is.
Anyway, he didn't mention coming again, and finding nothing but a black hole.
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Re: And scientists wonder why they are misunderstood

Post by Seth » Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:03 pm

mistermack wrote:In actual fact, it's scientifically impossible for Cern to destroy the world with a black hole.

God wouldn't allow it, because he has told us, via prophets, that he will come again, and everything will be just dandy. After he has defeated the devil that is.
Anyway, he didn't mention coming again, and finding nothing but a black hole.
Maybe he lives inside a black hole...or on the other side of one. Or maybe he just knows more about black holes than you do.
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