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Post by cronus » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:08 am

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‘Chemical warfare is the most humane method of warfare yet devised by man.’ That opinion, voiced in 1937 by Augustin Prentiss, a lieutenant colonel in the US chemical corps, sounds shocking today. We might not be too surprised to find Fritz Haber held a similar view of poison gas in 1919, describing it (during his Nobel prize presentation, no less) as a ‘higher form of killing’. But it was also endorsed in 1938 by James Kendall, then professor of chemistry at the University of Edinburgh, who had served in the US navy as liaison officer with the Allied services on chemical warfare during the first world war. Kendall was arguably the leading British expert on the subject, and his book Breathe freely!, published just as Europe seemed to be sliding inexorably towards a new international conflict, sought to dispel what he regarded as hysterical myths about such agents.

‘The general public,’ Kendall wrote, ‘has been systematically taught ever since the introduction of gas warfare in 1915 to regard poison gas as the most diabolical and detestable invention ever made – a weapon of war which is so horrible as to make all other weapons kindly in contrast.’ But in terms of both the casualties inflicted and the nature of the deaths or injuries, Kendall argued, poison gas in the first world war was far less horrible than conventional armaments.

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Post by MrJonno » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:32 am

It's main issue now is its a weapon that is basically useless against 1st world soldiers but deadly againt civilians, the only reason you would possess it would be to attack those civilians. Doesn't mean blowing them up or shooting them is any better but it does say a lot of about your aims by having it
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Post by cronus » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:47 am

MrJonno wrote:It's main issue now is its a weapon that is basically useless against 1st world soldiers but deadly againt civilians, the only reason you would possess it would be to attack those civilians. Doesn't mean blowing them up or shooting them is any better but it does say a lot of about your aims by having it
There are masses of innocent civilians uncontaminated by ISIS idealogical brainfuckery in Germany and beyond. Isn't it right to 'remove' the contaminated civilians, leave the buildings still standing, and return the refugees to the land they know best, their own? Rather than indiscriminate bombing that hides the bodies under rubble and pleases no one at all? :read:
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Post by Hermit » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:06 am

There are masses of innocent asylum seekers. Isn't it right to let them live in peace in countries where they don't have to endure wars?
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Hermit wrote:There are masses of innocent asylum seekers. Isn't it right to let them live in peace in countries where they don't have to endure wars?
Cruel to put them in with the Germans and wait for the Turkish effect to take hold, be used as cheap labour and generally become a underclass in a foreign land - isn't it?
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Hermit wrote:There are masses of innocent asylum seekers. Isn't it right to let them live in peace in countries where they don't have to endure wars?
Cruel to put them in with the Germans and wait for the Turkish effect to take hold, be used as cheap labour and generally become a underclass in a foreign land - isn't it?
A bit crueller to add them to the hundreds of thousands of dead Syrian civilians I would think. Also, the proportion of Turkish guest workers in Germany that now exists as "the underclass" is no greater than the proportion of native born Germans.

No worries about your posts, though. I'm getting used to your writing being totally unencumbered by facts.
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Post by cronus » Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:55 pm

Hermit wrote:
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Hermit wrote:There are masses of innocent asylum seekers. Isn't it right to let them live in peace in countries where they don't have to endure wars?
Cruel to put them in with the Germans and wait for the Turkish effect to take hold, be used as cheap labour and generally become a underclass in a foreign land - isn't it?
A bit crueller to add them to the hundreds of thousands of dead Syrian civilians I would think. Also, the proportion of Turkish guest workers in Germany that now exists as "the underclass" is no greater than the proportion of native born Germans.

No worries about your posts, though. I'm getting used to your writing being totally unencumbered by facts.
Facts? I've heard rumours they exist. No proof yet. :read:
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Post by Hermit » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:51 pm

Whereas you have facts that the Turkish guest workers have become an underclass in Germany? You have proof rather than jbasing that claim on rumor? :read:
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Post by cronus » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:02 pm

Hermit wrote:Whereas you have facts that the Turkish guest workers have become an underclass in Germany? You have proof rather than jbasing that claim on rumor? :read:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 67110.html
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