Ahmed Mohamed: 'Clock boy' seeks $15m from city and school

[JimC]

Fuck off, Seth.

[Jason]

[Seth]

Fuck off, Seth.

Hypocrite.

[cronus]

The fact is clock-boy didn't make a clock. This is really the most important factor here. He made out he'd made a clock. Everyone on the planet thought, he's a clock maker whoopeee! No, he's a gift for clock placement. A rather dubious skill in high demand all over the middle east right now. That's why the CIA should sort him out, extraordinary rendition, water-boarding and whatever else...to make him cough up his contacts. No $15 million that's for sure.

[mistermack]

If clock boy gets 15 million, the US has nobody to blame but itself.

If you foster this stupid compensation culture, you have to take the stupid consequences.

Maybe it needs a few dozen clock-boys to succeed, to show how ridiculous the whole thing is.

Actually, the findings by that engineer about the clock being simply an old clock stuck in a pencil case do a lot to explain why the family has fled to an Arab country.
They know it was a hoax, and they are now shit-scared of being arrested for attempted fraud and attempting to cause a terror alert.
It will be interesting to see how they plan to keep the claim going, without returning in person and risking arrest.

[Brian Peacock]

The clock isn't the issue, really. If an average non-Muslim US geeky child took the same pet-project to their science teacher do you think the police would be called, the kid would be taken away in handcuffs, that they would be interrogated without their parents or a lawyer present, excluded from school? If they were would that child's parents not have every right to seek recompense from the courts, especially if that child was subsequently vilified by politicians and commentators across national international media as a terrorist, was bullied at school, received death threats, and had people all over the internet suggesting they be locked away or anthraxed or whatever, particularly when such horrendous baying is justified entirely on the basis of the presumed ill-intent of a child?

OK, so the family have moved to Qatar so the lad can complete his education in relative peace in a place where his status as a member of a Muslim family is a complete non-issue. And yet even this is being held up as further evidence of the child's ill-intent. Seems to me this has got far more to do with paranoia, cultural hatred, and people feeling entitled not only to fling shit at a schoolboy but to threaten him as well, while citing that his inability to cope with this somehow justifies that treatment in the first place. This is exactly how abusers justify their abuse isn't it?

[cronus]

The clock isn't the issue, really. If an average non-Muslim US geeky child took the same pet-project to their science teacher do you think the police would be called, the kid would be taken away in handcuffs, that they would be interrogated without their parents or a lawyer present, excluded from school? If they were would that child's parents not have every right to seek recompense from the courts, especially if that child was subsequently vilified by politicians and commentators across national international media as a terrorist, was bullied at school, received death threats, and had people all over the internet suggesting they be locked away or anthraxed or whatever, particularly when such horrendous baying is justified entirely on the basis of the presumed ill-intent of a child?

OK, so the family have moved to Qatar so the lad can complete his education in relative peace in a place where his status as a member of a Muslim family is a complete non-issue. And yet even this is being held up as further evidence of the child's ill-intent. Seems to me this has got far more to do with paranoia, cultural hatred, and people feeling entitled not only to fling shit at a schoolboy but to threaten him as well, while citing that his inability to cope with this somehow justifies that treatment in the first place. This is exactly how abusers justify their abuse isn't it?

It only takes one rogue clock-boy to get through to the white house and where then is your liberal naive approach to a clock-device? It seems you are erring on the side of the Muslim kid despite all the continuous evidence we have of kids indoctrinated in the hate religion of Islam being easily brainwashed and manipulated into suicide bomb attacks.

[Hermit]

The clock isn't the issue, really. If an average non-Muslim US geeky child took the same pet-project to their science teacher do you think the police would be called, the kid would be taken away in handcuffs, that they would be interrogated without their parents or a lawyer present, excluded from school? If they were would that child's parents not have every right to seek recompense from the courts, especially if that child was subsequently vilified by politicians and commentators across national international media as a terrorist, was bullied at school, received death threats, and had people all over the internet suggesting they be locked away or anthraxed or whatever, particularly when such horrendous baying is justified entirely on the basis of the presumed ill-intent of a child?

OK, so the family have moved to Qatar so the lad can complete his education in relative peace in a place where his status as a member of a Muslim family is a complete non-issue. And yet even this is being held up as further evidence of the child's ill-intent. Seems to me this has got far more to do with paranoia, cultural hatred, and people feeling entitled not only to fling shit at a schoolboy but to threaten him as well, while citing that his inability to cope with this somehow justifies that treatment in the first place. This is exactly how abusers justify their abuse isn't it?

[Hermit]

It only takes one rogue clock-boy to get through to the white house and where then is your liberal naive approach to a clock-device? It seems you are erring on the side of the Muslim kid despite all the continuous evidence we have of kids indoctrinated in the hate religion of Islam being easily brainwashed and manipulated into suicide bomb attacks.

[cronus]

It only takes one rogue clock-boy to get through to the white house and where then is your liberal naive approach to a clock-device? It seems you are erring on the side of the Muslim kid despite all the continuous evidence we have of kids indoctrinated in the hate religion of Islam being easily brainwashed and manipulated into suicide bomb attacks.

That's why so many die in a disaster, Hermit.

[Hermit]

It only takes one rogue clock-boy to get through to the white house and where then is your liberal naive approach to a clock-device? It seems you are erring on the side of the Muslim kid despite all the continuous evidence we have of kids indoctrinated in the hate religion of Islam being easily brainwashed and manipulated into suicide bomb attacks.

That's why so many die in a disaster, Hermit.

Of the Islamic terrorism kind? In the year worst event of that sort died in the USA more than twice as many of its citizens died in road accident disasters. I would guess the ratio is even greater in the UK,

Furthermore, and more to the point, 14 year olds who want to impress their teachers with their soldering skills are about as far removed from Islamic terrorism as can be. My rolling eyes were occasioned by your lack of acceptance of that fact when Brian Peacock pointed it out.

Attitudes exemplified by yours are driving ordinary Muslims right into the hands of ISIS. Your kind is the best asset of Islamic terrorism.

[cronus]

Rationalia is the only place I put my shadow these days. So it is up to you not to spread my common gossip.

[Jason]

I'm not sure what you're getting at with the 'he didn't make the clock' point - to me the point is the political protest inherent in the act. Brian stated it most clearly - a white boy would not have raised the terrorist alarm. It's 99 luft ballons. Or it would have been if his family hadn't retreated from the country and slapped down a gigantic lawsuit.. now I don't know what to make of it.. cash on delivery candygram? The political point is lost with the pricetag.

Of course there's now a new political point, the right of all people to litigate. Much less to the benefit of society if you ask me.

[Brian Peacock]

The clock isn't the issue, really. If an average non-Muslim US geeky child took the same pet-project to their science teacher do you think the police would be called, the kid would be taken away in handcuffs, that they would be interrogated without their parents or a lawyer present, excluded from school? If they were would that child's parents not have every right to seek recompense from the courts, especially if that child was subsequently vilified by politicians and commentators across national international media as a terrorist, was bullied at school, received death threats, and had people all over the internet suggesting they be locked away or anthraxed or whatever, particularly when such horrendous baying is justified entirely on the basis of the presumed ill-intent of a child?

OK, so the family have moved to Qatar so the lad can complete his education in relative peace in a place where his status as a member of a Muslim family is a complete non-issue. And yet even this is being held up as further evidence of the child's ill-intent. Seems to me this has got far more to do with paranoia, cultural hatred, and people feeling entitled not only to fling shit at a schoolboy but to threaten him as well, while citing that his inability to cope with this somehow justifies that treatment in the first place. This is exactly how abusers justify their abuse isn't it?

It only takes one rogue clock-boy to get through to the white house and where then is your liberal naive approach to a clock-device? It seems you are erring on the side of the Muslim kid despite all the continuous evidence we have of kids indoctrinated in the hate religion of Islam being easily brainwashed and manipulated into suicide bomb attacks.

That my friend is an excellent justification for treating all Muslims as terrorists in waiting. So what should we do about this? Round them up into camps perhaps?

[cronus]

The clock isn't the issue, really. If an average non-Muslim US geeky child took the same pet-project to their science teacher do you think the police would be called, the kid would be taken away in handcuffs, that they would be interrogated without their parents or a lawyer present, excluded from school? If they were would that child's parents not have every right to seek recompense from the courts, especially if that child was subsequently vilified by politicians and commentators across national international media as a terrorist, was bullied at school, received death threats, and had people all over the internet suggesting they be locked away or anthraxed or whatever, particularly when such horrendous baying is justified entirely on the basis of the presumed ill-intent of a child?

OK, so the family have moved to Qatar so the lad can complete his education in relative peace in a place where his status as a member of a Muslim family is a complete non-issue. And yet even this is being held up as further evidence of the child's ill-intent. Seems to me this has got far more to do with paranoia, cultural hatred, and people feeling entitled not only to fling shit at a schoolboy but to threaten him as well, while citing that his inability to cope with this somehow justifies that treatment in the first place. This is exactly how abusers justify their abuse isn't it?

It only takes one rogue clock-boy to get through to the white house and where then is your liberal naive approach to a clock-device? It seems you are erring on the side of the Muslim kid despite all the continuous evidence we have of kids indoctrinated in the hate religion of Islam being easily brainwashed and manipulated into suicide bomb attacks.

That my friend is an excellent justification for treating all Muslims as terrorists in waiting. So what should we do about this? Round them up into camps perhaps?

No, define Islam as a Hate Religion here in the West and go from there...make it really easy to leave, new identities for those under threat etc, and provide massive inconvenience to those who remain. A specific tax on Mosques to help pay for the war on ISIS in the Middle East for instance. There's al-sorts you can do which are just short of persecution and prescriptive for the common good. With imagination.