Ahmed Mohamed: 'Clock boy' seeks $15m from city and school

[Seth]

Let's send him a briefcase marked "Money for Clock Boy" that's actually filled with Semtex and a detonator that triggers when his dad tries to open it up.

Or, let's send him 15 million in US 100 dollar bills, each and every one of which has had its serial number recorded and which have been fitted with RFID tracking chips that we can use to trace how he spends it.

Or, we can send him a bag full of old bills laced with anthrax.

How about 72 worn-out prostitutes with syphilis?

As long as they all resemble Andrea Dworkin and have permanent PMS I'm good with that...but he has to be locked in a room with them for 10 years.

[Brian Peacock]

Let's send him a briefcase marked "Money for Clock Boy" that's actually filled with Semtex and a detonator that triggers when his dad tries to open it up.

Or, let's send him 15 million in US 100 dollar bills, each and every one of which has had its serial number recorded and which have been fitted with RFID tracking chips that we can use to trace how he spends it.

Or, we can send him a bag full of old bills laced with anthrax.

Shit dude - he's just a teenager Seth, and you think this is an appropriate response to that nasty old Big Government's treatment of him? You are a mass of contradictions aren't you?

[laklak]

To be fair, most teenagers should have had their heads pinched off at birth.

[Seth]

Let's send him a briefcase marked "Money for Clock Boy" that's actually filled with Semtex and a detonator that triggers when his dad tries to open it up.

Or, let's send him 15 million in US 100 dollar bills, each and every one of which has had its serial number recorded and which have been fitted with RFID tracking chips that we can use to trace how he spends it.

Or, we can send him a bag full of old bills laced with anthrax.

Shit dude - he's just a teenager Seth, and you think this is an appropriate response to that nasty old Big Government's treatment of him? You are a mass of contradictions aren't you?

Fuck him and his daddy. He's a teenage wannabe jihadi tool of his radical Muslim father, who is a well-known agitator and probably a jihadist sleeper agent. Good riddance and I hope they strap a real bomb to this kid and it goes off prematurely. There was nothing at all "innocent" about what he did, nor did he do it all by himself I'd wager. I'm betting his father ordered him to do it and helped put the "clock" together as another bit of Muslim agitprop. If, on the other hand, the kid did it all by himself and for the reasons he cited, then he's too stupid to live.

[Brian Peacock]

Oh I see, mere idle speculation now brought to bear to justify advocating the killing children now. Those Israelites of yore would've be proud of such heroic levels of self-righteousness.

[Seth]

Oh I see, mere idle speculation now brought to bear to justify advocating the killing children now. Those Israelites of yore would've be proud of such heroic levels of self-righteousness.

What? I can't vent from time to time? As to killing children, he's not a child, he's a teenager (and by Muslim tradition an adult) and perfectly capable of sawing someone's head off with a knife, shooting them with an AK or blowing himself and others up.

[JimC]

Oh I see, mere idle speculation now brought to bear to justify advocating the killing children now. Those Israelites of yore would've be proud of such heroic levels of self-righteousness.

What? I can't vent from time to time? As to killing children, he's not a child, he's a teenager (and by Muslim tradition an adult) and perfectly capable of sawing someone's head off with a knife, shooting them with an AK or blowing himself and others up.

So you are certain it was not simply a model clock he brought to school for a science project?

[Brian Peacock]

Oh I see, mere idle speculation now brought to bear to justify advocating the killing children now. Those Israelites of yore would've be proud of such heroic levels of self-righteousness.

What? I can't vent from time to time? As to killing children, he's not a child, he's a teenager (and by Muslim tradition an adult) and perfectly capable of sawing someone's head off with a knife, shooting them with an AK or blowing himself and others up.

Vent all you want, it doesn't change my view about your advocacy of child murder. And how is any of the above even relevant, unless every Muslim is to be equally condemned as a terrorist simply for being a Muslim? Oh, let me guess your retort: we can't know if he's not a terrorist because we have no evidence that he is, therefore anthraxing him is simply the 'rational and logical' thing to to.

[cronus]

Oh I see, mere idle speculation now brought to bear to justify advocating the killing children now. Those Israelites of yore would've be proud of such heroic levels of self-righteousness.

What? I can't vent from time to time? As to killing children, he's not a child, he's a teenager (and by Muslim tradition an adult) and perfectly capable of sawing someone's head off with a knife, shooting them with an AK or blowing himself and others up.

Vent all you want, it doesn't change my view about your advocacy of child murder. And how is any of the above even relevant, unless every Muslim is to be equally condemned as a terrorist simply for being a Muslim? Oh, let me guess your retort: we can't know if he's not a terrorist because we have no evidence that he is, therefore anthraxing him is simply the 'rational and logical' thing to to.

That's how the next European genocide will start. One side arguing ethics. One side doing the murdering.

[Brian Peacock]

Ah, OK. Kill the boy if it'll stops that happening.

[Seth]

Oh I see, mere idle speculation now brought to bear to justify advocating the killing children now. Those Israelites of yore would've be proud of such heroic levels of self-righteousness.

What? I can't vent from time to time? As to killing children, he's not a child, he's a teenager (and by Muslim tradition an adult) and perfectly capable of sawing someone's head off with a knife, shooting them with an AK or blowing himself and others up.

So you are certain it was not simply a model clock he brought to school for a science project?

Yup.

[Seth]

Oh I see, mere idle speculation now brought to bear to justify advocating the killing children now. Those Israelites of yore would've be proud of such heroic levels of self-righteousness.

What? I can't vent from time to time? As to killing children, he's not a child, he's a teenager (and by Muslim tradition an adult) and perfectly capable of sawing someone's head off with a knife, shooting them with an AK or blowing himself and others up.

Vent all you want, it doesn't change my view about your advocacy of child murder.

He's not a child.

And how is any of the above even relevant, unless every Muslim is to be equally condemned as a terrorist simply for being a Muslim? Oh, let me guess your retort: we can't know if he's not a terrorist because we have no evidence that he is, therefore anthraxing him is simply the 'rational and logical' thing to to.

Well, according to their own prophet and their own book, every Muslim is a terrorist because they are commanded to be one.

[cronus]

I don't agree with Seth's methods but we must stop the clock-bombers before they complete their devices. No point doing that after the event.

[Brian Peacock]

Oh I see, mere idle speculation now brought to bear to justify advocating the killing children now. Those Israelites of yore would've be proud of such heroic levels of self-righteousness.

What? I can't vent from time to time? As to killing children, he's not a child, he's a teenager (and by Muslim tradition an adult) and perfectly capable of sawing someone's head off with a knife, shooting them with an AK or blowing himself and others up.

Vent all you want, it doesn't change my view about your advocacy of child murder.

He's not a child.

Frankly, your equivocation stinks. He's a minor, someone below the legal age of majority, whether you accept that makes him a child or not. If you want to get the dictionary out to prove your point feel free.

And how is any of the above even relevant, unless every Muslim is to be equally condemned as a terrorist simply for being a Muslim? Oh, let me guess your retort: we can't know if he's not a terrorist because we have no evidence that he is, therefore anthraxing him is simply the 'rational and logical' thing to to.

Well, according to their own prophet and their own book, every Muslim is a terrorist because they are commanded to be one.

Either this is at odds with everything you've said before about Tolerating religion, or you're just wibbling in the wind for the sake of saving face. Remember this one next time you try and get a rise out of an atheist and perhaps you'll realise why you come across as a sanctimonious hypocrite so much of the time.

[Seth]

Oh I see, mere idle speculation now brought to bear to justify advocating the killing children now. Those Israelites of yore would've be proud of such heroic levels of self-righteousness.

What? I can't vent from time to time? As to killing children, he's not a child, he's a teenager (and by Muslim tradition an adult) and perfectly capable of sawing someone's head off with a knife, shooting them with an AK or blowing himself and others up.

Vent all you want, it doesn't change my view about your advocacy of child murder.

He's not a child.

Frankly, your equivocation stinks. He's a minor, someone below the legal age of majority, whether you accept that makes him a child or not. If you want to get the dictionary out to prove your point feel free.

"Minor" is a legal status applying only to the degree to which he may exercise his civil liberties, and he's only a "minor" in the United States. In most Middle Eastern countries he's an adult and is old enough to get married and start a family.

And how is any of the above even relevant, unless every Muslim is to be equally condemned as a terrorist simply for being a Muslim? Oh, let me guess your retort: we can't know if he's not a terrorist because we have no evidence that he is, therefore anthraxing him is simply the 'rational and logical' thing to to.

Well, according to their own prophet and their own book, every Muslim is a terrorist because they are commanded to be one.

Either this is at odds with everything you've said before about Tolerating religion, or you're just wibbling in the wind for the sake of saving face. Remember this one next time you try and get a rise out of an atheist and perhaps you'll realise why you come across as a sanctimonious hypocrite so much of the time.

That's because you leave out an important principle of Tolerism™, which is that we tolerate the peaceable exercise of religion by others.

Islam is not a peaceable religion, therefore it need not be tolerated and indeed, the tenets of Tolerism™ expressly hold that we are fully justified in using force to oppose and defend against non-peaceable acts by anyone.