Would it be moral

[pErvinalia]

I'm never wrong. You must be mistaken..

[Forty Two]

to ship all western conservatives to their own island/continent, take the nukes off them, and leave them there to hate on each other and everyone else? I'm sick of them. How can one group of society be so consistently on the wrong side of history and not immediately quarantine itself from the rest of humanity?

Because they aren't on the wrong side, you are.

Yeah, right. Human rights is such a conservative policy. The right for blacks to vote, the right for women to vote, the right for poor and disabled people to have dignity and a life, LGBTI rights, the right for the public to require polluting and exploitative corporations be responsible, the right to a healthy life, and most significant (a lack of which leads to all the former) a right to expect a democracy to be an actual democracy not a corporatocracy. I.e. a respect for the concepts of liberal (and social) democracy.

Ya know who instituted Jim Crow laws in the South?

Democrats.

Conservative Democrats.

[pErvinalia]

They can have north America. There's enough resources there for them to live well enough. And they can trade with the third world, although, the rest of us will institute fair trade policies, which will probably mean the third-world won't trade with the conservatives and their exploitative practices.

According to the School of Oriental and African Studies in London, Fair Trade policies haven't helped out the poor.

Doesn't Australia already have fair trade policies? Weird how third world countries still trade elsewhere.....

No, we have "free" trade.

What is their reasoning for fair trade not helping the poor?

[Forty Two]

to ship all western conservatives to their own island/continent, take the nukes off them, and leave them there to hate on each other and everyone else? I'm sick of them. How can one group of society be so consistently on the wrong side of history and not immediately quarantine itself from the rest of humanity?

Yes.

The only island/continent that I'm aware of is Australia, which sounds like a perfect location. It was populated by convicts, and so there is a genetic predisposition to bad behavior there already.

That's a strange interpretation of epigenetics there....

Also a strange interpretation of English grammar. I didn't say island continent. The slash is a conditional.

Ohhhhhhh.... so you meant to say "island or continent." Well, with Oz, you get both, so it would be a great place to put the world's conservatives. First off, there's lots of space, and secondly, they would have all those leading Creationists to hang out with -- you know, John Mackay, Ken Ham, Andrew Snelling, Jason Lisle, Jonathan Sarfati etc. I mean Answers in Genesis was founded in Australia, and the Ozzie Creationists basically spearheaded the Creation Science movement around the world. Creation Ministries - Australian. They'd be happy in Queensland, which allowed the teaching of creationism as to school children. And, our conservatives on this side of the ponds would be pleased to see that starting May 29, 2010, creationism and intelligent design would be discussed in history classes as part of the new national curriculum. http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/quee ... 5872896736 That would just set all the conservatives a-quiver with delight. It's what they've been trying to get done here in North America for a while, albeit unsuccessfully.....

And, remember, the place that spawned Ray Comfort, the banana man, would be just nearby, too, as an added bonus.

I think a great case could be made for Australia as the Conservative Homeland. They could enact a right of return, and all conservatives could apply for Citizenship in the new nation of Conservia, which could fly the Eureka flag, instead of the current Ozzie Flag and it's liberal British Union Jack emblem....

[pErvinalia]

Hello Coito. Isn't it time to end the charade?

[Forty Two]

They can have north America. There's enough resources there for them to live well enough. And they can trade with the third world, although, the rest of us will institute fair trade policies, which will probably mean the third-world won't trade with the conservatives and their exploitative practices.

According to the School of Oriental and African Studies in London, Fair Trade policies haven't helped out the poor.

Doesn't Australia already have fair trade policies? Weird how third world countries still trade elsewhere.....

No, we have "free" trade.

What is their reasoning for fair trade not helping the poor?

Fair trade policies have not improved conditions, and appear to possibly have worsened them for some. The benefits don't flow through to the needy. http://www.theguardian.com/global-devel ... -fairtrade and https://www.soas.ac.uk/development/projects/fteprr/

In common parlance, it creates inefficiencies, raises prices, and the additional profits go to those you would expect to get them.

[pErvinalia]

Anyway, oz wouldn't be a good choice as it can't sustain a large population. That's why I reckon nth Am would be a good place. And it's full of conservatives already..

[pErvinalia]

They can have north America. There's enough resources there for them to live well enough. And they can trade with the third world, although, the rest of us will institute fair trade policies, which will probably mean the third-world won't trade with the conservatives and their exploitative practices.

According to the School of Oriental and African Studies in London, Fair Trade policies haven't helped out the poor.

Doesn't Australia already have fair trade policies? Weird how third world countries still trade elsewhere.....

No, we have "free" trade.

What is their reasoning for fair trade not helping the poor?

Fair trade policies have not improved conditions, and appear to possibly have worsened them for some. The benefits don't flow through to the needy. http://www.theguardian.com/global-devel ... -fairtrade and https://www.soas.ac.uk/development/projects/fteprr/

In common parlance, it creates inefficiencies, raises prices, and the additional profits go to those you would expect to get them.

When I'm not on my phone I'll look into this.

[Forty Two]

Anyway, oz wouldn't be a good choice as it can't sustain a large population.

All the more reason to send the world's conservatives there....

That's why I reckon nth Am would be a good place. And it's full of conservatives already..

There's no shortage of conservatives in Oz, and there is plenty of spare acreage, and since the conservatives do love them some Creationism...

Besides in North America, the conservatives want to get away from the black President. Can't get much farther away than Oz. No way they'd elect an aboriginal Australian to the highest office....conservatives would be safe from that sort of thing.

[pErvinalia]

It's funny how you think there is more conservatism and creationism in Australia than the US..

[Forty Two]

It's funny how you think there is more conservatism and creationism in Australia than the US..

The major US Creationists are Ozzie and New Zealanders -- Ray Comfort, Ken Ham, Mackay....

Answers in Genesis is Australian, and often people the Answers in Genesis is an American monstrolsity.

There likely isn't "more" creationism and conservatism in Oz than in the US, because we have about 10 times your population. But, Oz presents some real advantages for conservatives -- a good Creationist base -- Creationism taught in public schools (which is illegal here in the US, and struck down every time it is tried) -- and a dark-skinned population that is kept very quiet and to the side. Here in the US, we elect blacks President. Conservatives the world over would love the rising racism in Oz these days - http://www.smh.com.au/national/racism-o ... 365a5.html

[pErvinalia]

ok Coito.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

It's funny how you think there is more conservatism and creationism in Australia than the US..

The major US Creationists are Ozzie and New Zealanders -- Ray Comfort, Ken Ham, Mackay....

Answers in Genesis is Australian, and often people the Answers in Genesis is an American monstrolsity.

There likely isn't "more" creationism and conservatism in Oz than in the US, because we have about 10 times your population. But, Oz presents some real advantages for conservatives -- a good Creationist base -- Creationism taught in public schools (which is illegal here in the US, and struck down every time it is tried) -- and a dark-skinned population that is kept very quiet and to the side. Here in the US, we elect blacks President. Conservatives the world over would love the rising racism in Oz these days - http://www.smh.com.au/national/racism-o ... 365a5.html

You forgot Mel Gibson.

[pErvinalia]

Born in Merka...

[Forty Two]

Born in Merka...

Don't remind us. But, he moved to Oz when he was 12, so you lot can have him back.