Blind groper wrote:Seth totally ignores the fact that most western nations have very few guns, and there are no nasty consequences.
Say what? Can you say "Je suis Charlie?" What you totally ignore is that violent crime happens in every nation on earth, including some select pick therefrom you decide to cherry-pick. Even Switzerland.
He keeps saying that terrible things will happen without guns.
Er, that's because they do.
Well, Seth, three English speaking western nations, Australia, NZ, and Britain have very few guns, and we also have little crime,
Liar. All three have plenty of crime, and plenty of violent crime, and therefore plenty of victims of violent crime.
and a quarter to one fifth of the murders the USA suffers.
Cherry picking irrelevancy.
Canada is the other English speaking country, and it has more guns that the others (except USA) due to its physical proximity to the USA, and it also has a much higher murder rate than any but the USA.
And strict gun control and bans.
Real world data shows no downside to reducing gun ownership,
Except to those who are the victims of crimes that having a gun would have prevented, oh, and the hundred million or so people murdered by despotism and tyranny, mostly in Europe, that we armed Americans have to keep bringing our weapons over to defeat.
but a big upside in the form of much fewer murders, and much fewer people getting bullets passing through parts of their bodies.
Fallacy of composition.
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