Positive proof?

[Seth]

Interesting that the most rapidly growing system of religious belief is atheism. I guess humanity is finally growing up.

Atheism isn't a belief system, Seth.

It most certainly and absolutely is, rEv. And a pretty irrational belief system at that.

[Seth]

It is a truism that you cannot prove a negative. For this reason I cannot prove God does not exist.

However, there is a corollary to this truism. It is really easy to prove a positive. Proving God does exist falls into this category. All that is needed is for the Big Man himself to come down to Earth, shining his golden radiance, and perform a bunch of miracles. He has not done so.

Why?

According to the Bible he has done so. Jesus was supposedly God himself.

It should be easy enough to test God. Gideon did it by asking God to show himself by making a towel wet. I tried this myself, but nothing happened. I believe another character asked God to make an axe-head float.

Testing God seems to be somewhat risky. After all, a sentient being is under no obligation to comply with such requests.

HE can do what he wants I guess. He just has no right to whine when people don't believe he exists.

I was not aware that he was whining about it.

[Seth]

Interesting that the most rapidly growing system of religious belief is atheism. I guess humanity is finally growing up.

Of the various systems of religious belief out there, Atheism is one of the least rational ones in my opinion.

[Seth]

It is a truism that you cannot prove a negative.

Drivel.

Is that an argument, or an assessment of your skills of argumentation?

[Seth]

It is a truism that you cannot prove a negative.

Drivel.

It's not drivel, troll. It's perfectly logical in the context of what he is talking about.

Well, it seems logical to you anyway, which isn't saying much.

[rainbow]

It is a truism that you cannot prove a negative.

Drivel.

Is that an argument, or an assessment of your skills of argumentation?

Neither. It is a truism.

[Forty Two]

"Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as the final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God.
The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist,'" says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," says Man, "The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
"Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing."

[Animavore]

It is a truism that you cannot prove a negative. For this reason I cannot prove God does not exist.

However, there is a corollary to this truism. It is really easy to prove a positive. Proving God does exist falls into this category. All that is needed is for the Big Man himself to come down to Earth, shining his golden radiance, and perform a bunch of miracles. He has not done so.

Why?

According to the Bible he has done so. Jesus was supposedly God himself.

It should be easy enough to test God. Gideon did it by asking God to show himself by making a towel wet. I tried this myself, but nothing happened. I believe another character asked God to make an axe-head float.

Testing God seems to be somewhat risky. After all, a sentient being is under no obligation to comply with such requests.

HE can do what he wants I guess. He just has no right to whine when people don't believe he exists.

I was not aware that he was whining about it.

Anyone who condemns people to an intinity of burny torture for not believing in them is a pretty whiny cunt in my book.

But you're sort of right. You're not aware he is whining about it. Or anything else about him for that matter. Just like, seemingly, every other cunt.

[Animavore]

Interesting that the most rapidly growing system of religious belief is atheism. I guess humanity is finally growing up.

Of the various systems of religious belief out there, Atheism is one of the least rational ones in my opinion.

Oh! The one which doesn't make grandiose claims about gods and what they want and desire from us is the least rational one?

I guess this shows exactly how worthless your opinion is.

[pErvinalia]

yep.

[Forty Two]

Atheism is not a system of religious belief.

However, I note that you have capitalized the term. If you would define it, such that we can know the attributes of the system of religious belief which you denote as Atheism, then we can evaluate whether we agree or disagree with you.

Small "a" atheism is certainly not a system of religious belief.

[pErvinalia]

NOOOOO!!! Don't go there!!

[Animavore]

Atheims isn't a belief system for the exact same reasons theism isn't a belief system. There are theistic beliefs systems, and there are atheistic belief systems (like A+ fools), but neither are one thing you can point to.
Saying"atheism" is a belief system, whether you capitalise it or not, (and "theism" is never capitalised), simply doesn't make sense.

[pErvinalia]

I would have thought theism is a belief system. It's a belief in something taken entirely on faith.

[Animavore]

I would have thought theism is a belief system. It's a belief in something taken entirely on faith.

No it's not. Theism is a generic or umbrella term. Christianity, Hinduism and Islam are all theistic belief systems, but they are not the same thing.