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Re: Atheists are mostly sociopaths.

Post by DaveDodo007 » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:50 pm

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DaveDodo007 wrote:Not all obviously but too many for it to be a coincidence. For all their self righteous anger they only support rights that make them seems the good guys. When push comes to shove then all the poisons of the lake bubble to the surface. Watch their righteous anger when religious dogma affronts their sensibilities, ho they are so angry. You name it, human rights, women's rights, animal rights, fish rights ad nauseam, ho watch them get red in the face on behalf of people whom the religious don't really care about. Ho the anger of religious oppression, those meanie religious types trying to oppress all these marginalize groups (the horror.) Though when it comes to thinking thing through then fuck that shit as religion and reasons etc. Who are atheists trying to kid. It certainly wasn't the godless that's for sure.

Who needs facts and evidence when the hivemind just listen and believe something something, which you will never find has is like awesome or ethnic people of colour, as atheists have got your back. Well if you live on Mars or something or so long as you don't disagree you might have to listen and believe false rape claims. Fuck it as I'm too drunk to post but I'll be back.
Another rant full of rhetoric and empty of evidence. Why keep starting new threads with the same empty rant? Just put it in one of the old threads. Unless you are only here to troll, that is... :coffee:
It is just my opinion but OK show me an unpopular cause which atheists support because it is right to do so. It is all posturing.
The right to assisted euthanasia. Not that any of this has anything to do with your repeated drunken rants totally devoid of evidence or argumentation.
How is this a good thing, the potential for abusing this is horrifying. Euthanasia should only be done on a case by case basis. Just another example of a lot of atheists not thinking things through. If religions is against something then oppose it dichotomy.
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Re: Atheists are mostly sociopaths.

Post by DaveDodo007 » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:54 pm

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rachelbean wrote:Do you really think atheists are any different than other people in this regard? I think you are mistaken. I think people (even atheists) are people.
"I think people (even atheists) are people." WTF. :think:

To address the opening question. I don't think atheists are any different than other people. I do think a lot of atheists are smug even when they just swap religion for another (lack of any evidence to support it) ideology.
1. "I don't think atheists are any different than other people." Apart from the bleedin' obvious fact that they are distinguished from "other people" (ie. non-atheists) by their lack of belief in any deity (else why give them a name!), this is patently true.

2. "I do think a lot of atheists are smug even when they just swap religion for another (lack of any evidence to support it) ideology." To my mind, religion is no better or worse than any other ideology. If you believe in something simply "because you believe in it", without questioning (or even daring to question) its FACTS, or seeking evidence for its claims, your belief has no more validity than any other, similarly-held belief, whether religious or not.

Where I take issue with you is that you single out atheists as holding ideological views. (Or "a lot" of them, at least - way to quantify! :biggrin: ) This is simply something that you "think". A pre-conceived notion with no visible evidence to back it up. If you like, an ideology. :tea:

Of course, there are professed atheists that hold political, social or other ideologies. Just as there are among any group you could name. But are there more atheists falling into this category than members of the general population? Or is "a lot" not quite that many? And, if not, why bother to mention it at all? You might as well say, "I do think a lot of non-swimmers are smug when they participate in other forms of water-borne transportation." Irrelevant.
There are some fair points here though do remember that this is a qualitative position I'm taking and nothing is set in stone. I could even be wrong gasp! Maybe atheists are more caring and tolerant than others but I have yet to see this and have seen the opposite in spades. Also the title didn't help but that was deliberate hyperbole as trying to get a discussion going on a near moribund forum is next to impossible. The idea only came to me when I was debating Scottnumbers whilst I was drunk. I would have called it "The opportunistic altruism of most atheists" if sober, just a lot(lol) of atheists gainsaying religious positions without putting any real thought into these positions.
Not putting real thought into their position. Now, who does that remind me of? :ask:

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Insults instead of arguments is always the best way to show the strength of your position. :roll:
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Re: Atheists are mostly sociopaths.

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:13 pm

DaveDodo007 wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:Not all obviously but too many for it to be a coincidence. For all their self righteous anger they only support rights that make them seems the good guys. When push comes to shove then all the poisons of the lake bubble to the surface. Watch their righteous anger when religious dogma affronts their sensibilities, ho they are so angry. You name it, human rights, women's rights, animal rights, fish rights ad nauseam, ho watch them get red in the face on behalf of people whom the religious don't really care about. Ho the anger of religious oppression, those meanie religious types trying to oppress all these marginalize groups (the horror.) Though when it comes to thinking thing through then fuck that shit as religion and reasons etc. Who are atheists trying to kid. It certainly wasn't the godless that's for sure.

Who needs facts and evidence when the hivemind just listen and believe something something, which you will never find has is like awesome or ethnic people of colour, as atheists have got your back. Well if you live on Mars or something or so long as you don't disagree you might have to listen and believe false rape claims. Fuck it as I'm too drunk to post but I'll be back.
Another rant full of rhetoric and empty of evidence. Why keep starting new threads with the same empty rant? Just put it in one of the old threads. Unless you are only here to troll, that is... :coffee:
It is just my opinion but OK show me an unpopular cause which atheists support because it is right to do so. It is all posturing.
The right to assisted euthanasia. Not that any of this has anything to do with your repeated drunken rants totally devoid of evidence or argumentation.
How is this a good thing, the potential for abusing this is horrifying. Euthanasia should only be done on a case by case basis. Just another example of a lot of atheists not thinking things through. If religions is against something then oppose it dichotomy.
Just another case of your inability to think. Who said anything about it not being done on a case by case basis?? I can't believe I came back to this dump to spend most of my time "debating" with you. You're going on ignore. Your inability to even perform the most basic aspects of thinking is a fucking embarrassment, and I'm a fucking joke for even entertaining anything you have said.
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Re: Atheists are mostly sociopaths.

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:15 pm

DaveDodo007 wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote: "I think people (even atheists) are people." WTF. :think:

To address the opening question. I don't think atheists are any different than other people. I do think a lot of atheists are smug even when they just swap religion for another (lack of any evidence to support it) ideology.
1. "I don't think atheists are any different than other people." Apart from the bleedin' obvious fact that they are distinguished from "other people" (ie. non-atheists) by their lack of belief in any deity (else why give them a name!), this is patently true.

2. "I do think a lot of atheists are smug even when they just swap religion for another (lack of any evidence to support it) ideology." To my mind, religion is no better or worse than any other ideology. If you believe in something simply "because you believe in it", without questioning (or even daring to question) its FACTS, or seeking evidence for its claims, your belief has no more validity than any other, similarly-held belief, whether religious or not.

Where I take issue with you is that you single out atheists as holding ideological views. (Or "a lot" of them, at least - way to quantify! :biggrin: ) This is simply something that you "think". A pre-conceived notion with no visible evidence to back it up. If you like, an ideology. :tea:

Of course, there are professed atheists that hold political, social or other ideologies. Just as there are among any group you could name. But are there more atheists falling into this category than members of the general population? Or is "a lot" not quite that many? And, if not, why bother to mention it at all? You might as well say, "I do think a lot of non-swimmers are smug when they participate in other forms of water-borne transportation." Irrelevant.
There are some fair points here though do remember that this is a qualitative position I'm taking and nothing is set in stone. I could even be wrong gasp! Maybe atheists are more caring and tolerant than others but I have yet to see this and have seen the opposite in spades. Also the title didn't help but that was deliberate hyperbole as trying to get a discussion going on a near moribund forum is next to impossible. The idea only came to me when I was debating Scottnumbers whilst I was drunk. I would have called it "The opportunistic altruism of most atheists" if sober, just a lot(lol) of atheists gainsaying religious positions without putting any real thought into these positions.
Not putting real thought into their position. Now, who does that remind me of? :ask:

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Insults instead of arguments is always the best way to show the strength of your position. :roll:
Says the guy who spends most of his posts insulting people. :fp: Well trolled, sir!
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Re: Atheists are mostly sociopaths.

Post by DaveDodo007 » Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:48 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
Says the guy who spends most of his posts insulting people. :fp: Well trolled, sir!
Which was all good fun until Scott started stalking and obsessing about me whilst grassing me up. One of the things I did like about you, Hermit and most of the forum was that nobody used to give a shit. The paradigm seems to have shifted now so I'm simply adapting to the new environment. :(
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Re: Atheists are mostly sociopaths.

Post by surreptitious57 » Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:10 pm

I can only speak for myself but none of what Dave is saying here resonates with me personally. I have nothing to do with anyone in real life
and if I were to drop dead right now no one would actually know. And you cannot get any more detached than that. Now there are atheists
out there who are much more noticeable. But that is not true of all of them just some of them. Unfortunately this latest rant of Dave is not
subtle enough to make such a distinction. I also think what he is talking about applies more to social justice warriors than it does to atheists
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Re: Atheists are mostly sociopaths.

Post by DaveDodo007 » Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:20 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
Just another case of your inability to think. Who said anything about it not being done on a case by case basis?? I can't believe I came back to this dump to spend most of my time "debating" with you. You're going on ignore. Your inability to even perform the most basic aspects of thinking is a fucking embarrassment, and I'm a fucking joke for even entertaining anything you have said.
You are not debating me, you are ignoring any arguments I give whilst claiming they have no value with an added insult for good measure. This is not something you can claim by fiat as you have to give substance to your assertions. Go on and bury your head in the sand and ignore me as nothing of value would be lost.
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Re: Atheists are mostly sociopaths.

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:05 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
rachelbean wrote:Do you really think atheists are any different than other people in this regard? I think you are mistaken. I think people (even atheists) are people.
"I think people (even atheists) are people." WTF. :think:

To address the opening question. I don't think atheists are any different than other people. I do think a lot of atheists are smug even when they just swap religion for another (lack of any evidence to support it) ideology.
1. "I don't think atheists are any different than other people." Apart from the bleedin' obvious fact that they are distinguished from "other people" (ie. non-atheists) by their lack of belief in any deity (else why give them a name!), this is patently true.

2. "I do think a lot of atheists are smug even when they just swap religion for another (lack of any evidence to support it) ideology." To my mind, religion is no better or worse than any other ideology. If you believe in something simply "because you believe in it", without questioning (or even daring to question) its FACTS, or seeking evidence for its claims, your belief has no more validity than any other, similarly-held belief, whether religious or not.

Where I take issue with you is that you single out atheists as holding ideological views. (Or "a lot" of them, at least - way to quantify! :biggrin: ) This is simply something that you "think". A pre-conceived notion with no visible evidence to back it up. If you like, an ideology. :tea:

Of course, there are professed atheists that hold political, social or other ideologies. Just as there are among any group you could name. But are there more atheists falling into this category than members of the general population? Or is "a lot" not quite that many? And, if not, why bother to mention it at all? You might as well say, "I do think a lot of non-swimmers are smug when they participate in other forms of water-borne transportation." Irrelevant.
There are some fair points here though do remember that this is a qualitative position I'm taking and nothing is set in stone. I could even be wrong gasp! Maybe atheists are more caring and tolerant than others but I have yet to see this and have seen the opposite in spades. Also the title didn't help but that was deliberate hyperbole as trying to get a discussion going on a near moribund forum is next to impossible. The idea only came to me when I was debating Scottnumbers whilst I was drunk. I would have called it "The opportunistic altruism of most atheists" if sober, just a lot(lol) of atheists gainsaying religious positions without putting any real thought into these positions.
Not putting real thought into their position. Now, who does that remind me of? :ask:

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DaveDodo007 wrote:Insults instead of arguments is always the best way to show the strength of your position. :roll:
Not an insult at all. Simply a justifiable critique couched in a humorous tone. :dunno:

You might also note that I made no mention of any particular person in the post. It is rather telling, don't you think, that you immediately assumed I was talking about you? :biggrin:
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Re: Atheists are mostly sociopaths.

Post by Seth » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:20 pm

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The right to assisted euthanasia. Not that any of this has anything to do with your repeated drunken rants totally devoid of evidence or argumentation.
If you don't like his rants, rEv, then don't read them.
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Post by Animavore » Mon Jun 01, 2015 11:22 pm

The best part of being sociopathic is I don't have to care about anything that's said here.
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Re: Atheists are mostly sociopaths.

Post by rainbow » Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:00 am

Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
The right to assisted euthanasia. Not that any of this has anything to do with your repeated drunken rants totally devoid of evidence or argumentation.
If you don't like his rants, rEv, then don't read them.
Well I don't like your rants but I still read them.
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Post by rainbow » Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:02 am

Animavore wrote:The best part of being sociopathic is I don't have to care about anything that's said here.
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rainbow wrote:
Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
The right to assisted euthanasia. Not that any of this has anything to do with your repeated drunken rants totally devoid of evidence or argumentation.
If you don't like his rants, rEv, then don't read them.
Well I don't like your rants but I still read them.
Why thank you! Your dislike (or rEv's) doesn't thereby justify ad hom insults in place of rational rebuttal or simple silence however.
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Post by Animavore » Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:18 pm

The best part about being drunk is you don't remember writing shit!
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Re: Atheists are mostly sociopaths.

Post by rainbow » Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:19 am

Seth wrote:
rainbow wrote:
Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
The right to assisted euthanasia. Not that any of this has anything to do with your repeated drunken rants totally devoid of evidence or argumentation.
If you don't like his rants, rEv, then don't read them.
Well I don't like your rants but I still read them.
Why thank you! Your dislike (or rEv's) doesn't thereby justify ad hom insults in place of rational rebuttal or simple silence however.
Well mainly I don't feel the need to justify what I say, or don't say.

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