Jade Helm 15 & The Great Texas Pogrom ??

[Hermit]

The chances are pretty good, especially since no live ordnance will be issued by the defence force.

As for "hostile territory", yeah, right. Because some right wing lunatics spin some conspiracy theory about Texas being attacked by the US army, soldiers will think: "Yeah. Why not? This will be fun." and start a war against the Lone Star state. Obvious, isn't it?

[cronus]

The chances are pretty good, especially since no live ordnance will be issued by the defence force.

As for "hostile territory", yeah, right. Because some right wing lunatics spin some conspiracy theory about Texas being attacked by the US army, soldiers will think: "Yeah. Why not? This will be fun." and start a war against the Lone Star state. Obvious, isn't it?

Texas - America's in house version of the Ukraine.

[pErvinalia]

USSE - United Socialist Soviet Ebolas.

[cronus]

USSE - United Socialist Soviet Ebolas.

Ebola might be released in a controlled manner to bring isolated Texan communities under control. In some respects, if you know what you are doing and dealing with well dispersed populations, could be the ideal bio-warfare weapon of choice?

[cronus]

Seth explaining how it all happened. One year later. In the hills.

[mistermack]

Ebola might be released in a controlled manner to bring isolated Texan communities under control. In some respects, if you know what you are doing and dealing with well dispersed populations, could be the ideal bio-warfare weapon of choice?

It's not an ideal bio weapon.
it's actually easy to avoid catching it. Just avoid person-to-person contact, with people who have the symptoms, or are already dead.

Bird flu would be a much better bio weapon.

[laklak]

It's a good choice if your aim is destabilization and panic rather than a large body count.

[pErvinalia]

But I'm pretty sure their aim is a large body count. Thank god the teabillies will put a stop to this communist takeover of Texas.

By the way, Lak, how did you guys survive your invasion (was it last year?) when the feds did the same thing in Florida?

[cronus]

Alex Jones taking it seriously - gone to semi-combat gear level.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

As long as everybody remembers the Alamo...

Damn! I knew I'd forgotten something!

[laklak]

But I'm pretty sure their aim is a large body count. Thank god the teabillies will put a stop to this communist takeover of Texas.

By the way, Lak, how did you guys survive your invasion (was it last year?) when the feds did the same thing in Florida?

We welcomed our Liberators! They brought me pictures of Dear Barack and Dear Joe to hang in my bedroom, so the last thing I see before I sleep is their noble faces! I love Dear Barack and Dear Joe! I will serve The People with all my strength, to my last breath!

[pErvinalia]

[Seth]

This is going to end in at least some dead people. I predict it will be innocent people who have wrongly been identified as feds by some local gun loons.

More seriously, it's a pretty risky exercise in such a lunatic state.

I'm betting that the ROE mandates that anyone carrying a weapon of any kind will be restricted to the private property/closed public lands they have set up for such exercises. My understanding of the SOCOM component is for the SF troops to "infiltrate" an area in civilian clothing to contact and work with "internal elements" as an undercover operation. The whole point is for them to go undetected.

I doubt the military would send in armed soldiers, even with blanks, in civvies to any community precisely because of the grave danger that the citizenry will mistake such activities as terrorist actions and respond with their own weapons, which they would be fully entitled to do. The military isn't that stupid. They know that if they go around pointing guns at civilians, either in uniform or otherwise, they stand a very good chance of getting shot themselves, and justifiably so. If a soldier points his rifle at me, he'd better not be loaded with blanks because there's going to be a live-ammunition gunfight because no soldier has any lawful authority to point a gun at any civilian except during a declared state of emergency where martial law has been declared. Now the National Guard is a bit different, as are the State Guards or State Militias, but even then a declaration must be made (as in a riot) by the Governor and announced to the crowd before ANY action can be taken, which since Kent State does NOT include firing on civilians unless fired upon first.

There's no danger of this being a "takeover" because the military hasn't committed enough forces to even begin to make that happen, much less succeed, and they know it. Whatever they are rehearsing for it's not for an internal "invasion" to "take over Texas" or anywhere else in the US because they know full well that the US has an armed citizenry, and of all the states with an armed citizenry, Texas is perhaps the most heavily-armed among them. It would take the equivalent of the invasion of Iraq, with all the personnel and equipment that took, to even have a chance at occupying Texas, much less anywhere else.

And that, my friends, is exactly why the 2nd Amendment exists and why we Americans choose to arm ourselves with weapons suitable for use by a soldier...because ultimately we ARE soldiers who defend our nation against enemies foreign and domestic. And the military knows it and supports it, despite the CIC's or the Congress' potential desire to use the US military to oppress Americans. It's much like Egypt, whose military commanders the US trained and assisted and inculcated with the ideal that the military serves the people, not the President or the government. That's why Egypt is now (again) under military control, because the politicians (like Mohammed Morsi) used their political power unlawfully and in violation of the civil rights of the citizenry, which compelled the military to overthrow the despot in order to protect the citizenry. And that's why Morsi is going to get his neck stretched.

The US military swears allegiance to the United States Constitution and the laws of the United States and members swear to uphold lawful orders given by legitimate military authority, but they do not swear to violate the Constitution, the laws of the United States or the rights of its citizens merely because the CIC orders them to do so. They can, and will, refuse to obey unlawful orders to disarm the American people, and Congress, after Katrina, made it explicit that it is unlawful to disarm citizens after a national disaster. Only in the case of armed insurrection and the imposition of martial law does the US military have any power to disarm a citizen.

Leaders like Obama who entertain the notion that the military is theirs to play with and that it will do whatever he says are delusional.

And that fact, combined with an armed citizenry, is what prevents Obama from becoming Morsi, or Kadaffy, or Stalin, or Mao, or any other despot that's ever existed.

[Seth]

Seth explaining how it all happened. One year later. In the hills.

Remember who won that fictional conflict?

[Seth]

Alex Jones taking it seriously - gone to semi-combat gear level.

Alex and others like him are the canaries in the coal mine. They are quite obviously wrong, but the point is that as long as they are able to be wrong and agitate as they do, there is little danger that anything nefarious is going to happen any time soon. It's time to start the weapons load-out and bug-out plan when people like Alex are silenced and arrested. It's both perfectly appropriate and extremely necessary that people like him exist to keep an eye on the government and to shout "the sky is falling" whenever they get even a whiff of something nefarious coming down the pike.

The reason this is important is that yes, there will always be a small contingent of citizens who will take this sort of propaganda more or less seriously and will therefore always be extremely vigilant and will pay close attention to what the government is doing. It's the American Alarm System at work. Jones and his like are the Paul Revere's of today.

What I'm hoping we'll see in Texas are members of the unorganized militia, dressed in their camo and body armor, carrying very real and very loaded guns, patrolling the streets of the communities involved, along with the National Guard. That will add a degree of verisimilitude and jeopardy to the SF infiltration mission. If they fuck up, the locals will take them into custody. And if they are stupid enough to point guns at the locals, they will get shot dead.

And that is why they won't do any such thing.

I've been thinking of heading down to Texas in my Hummer, with all my kit, my press credentials and my camera and recorder just to see what's going on. Could be fun.