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[Animavore]

Useful idiots are often complacent and obedient. That's one of the purposes of Marxist propaganda and indoctrination: Never question Marxism, because questioning Marxism (or in this case AGW) is "counterrevolutionary" and will be punished.

I seem to remember Richard Muller et al being allowed question AGW freely. The IPCC, NOAA, NASA and others even handed them their data no problems.

[piscator]

Confirmation bias when it comes to adjusting and extrapolating the raw data from temperature measurement can explain all the supposed global warming "evidence".

Only an ignorant person thinks least squares and linear extrapolation are in any way subjective and prone to confirmation bias.

[Animavore]

"Witch hunt" implies that the hunt is unjust because witches don't exist. Hunting Communists in the US government was a very real necessity, as the Communists were in fact working to destroy the United States and needed to be rooted out and prosecuted for doing so.

I remember the witch hunts, generated by the media, for paedophiles in Britain. One woman even got her surgery attacked because the sign on her building said, "paediatrician".
The term "witch-hunt" doesnt' suggest that the object of the hunt does not exist. Only that those involved see the object of the hunt everywhere they look, even when it isn't there.

[Seth]

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Claim: CO2 Emissions Are Greening The Planet
2:42 PM 02/27/2015


Climate scientists often shriek about the supposed downsides of increased carbon dioxide emissions: a warmer planet, rising seas, impending doom, John Cusack, etc.

But is there an upside?

As it turns out, increased atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide are greening the planet, according to research done on the subject.

“One byproduct of increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and the longer temperate-zone growing seasons accompanying global warming is greater plant growth,” wrote Bjorn Lomborg, director of the Copenhagen Consensus Center — also known for his book “The Skeptical Environmentalist.”

Carbon dioxide is plant food. It’s a substitute for water and allows plant life to thrive in areas that would have previously been impossible, including in the world’s most arid regions — a phenomenon called “CO2 fertilization.” A warmer world also means longer growing seasons in temperate zones, which further spurs plant growth.

“The unsung part about global warming. It will actually lead to a greener planet, because CO2 works as a fertilizer and global warming leads to more precipitation,” Lomborg said, citing recent work by Jesse Ausubel, director of the Program for the Human Environment at Rockefeller University in New York.

Global warming leads to a greener planet: more precipitation and fertilizing effect of CO₂ http://t.co/EPPcIuZE42 pic.twitter.com/Cw2m7BFRO3

— Bjorn Lomborg (@BjornLomborg) February 27, 2015



“Global Greening,“ Ausubel said, “is the most important ecological trend on Earth today. The biosphere on land is getting bigger, year by year, by two billion tons or even more.”

Ausubel is not the only research to note the effects of CO2 fertilization. Several other groups have also noted that carbon dioxide emissions are greening the planet.

“Well documented evidence shows that concurrently with the increased CO2 levels, extensive, large, and continuing increase in biomass is taking place globally — reducing deserts, turning grasslands to savannas, savannas to forests, and expanding existing forests,” according to a study by the libertarian Cato Institute from last year.

“Nevertheless, in nearly all regions and globally, the overall effect in recent decades is decidedly toward greening,” Cato notes. “This result is also the opposite of what the IPCC expected.”

In 2013, Australia’s Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO) found that “CO2 fertilisation correlated with an 11 per cent increase in foliage cover from 1982-2010 across parts of the arid areas studied in Australia, North America, the Middle East and Africa.”

“In Australia, our native vegetation is superbly adapted to surviving in arid environments and it consequently uses water very efficiently,” said Dr. Randall Donohue, a CSIRO research scientist. “Australian vegetation seems quite sensitive to CO2 fertilisation.”

Another 2013 study published in the journal Nature found a “substantial increase in water-use efficiency in temperate and boreal forests of the Northern Hemisphere over the past two decades.”

“The observed increase in forest water-use efficiency is larger than that predicted by existing theory and 13 terrestrial biosphere models,” the study added. “The increase is associated with trends of increasing ecosystem-level photosynthesis and net carbon uptake, and decreasing evapotranspiration.”

But as Lomborg notes, CO2 fertilization is only one side of global warming and does not diminish the importance of the issue.

“Remember, this does not mean that global warming is not real or not overall a problem,” he said. “There are definitely downsides to global warming (and in the long run these are greater than the upsides). But we don’t get a balanced global conversation on climate change if we overwhelmingly hear about the downsides but rarely if ever hear about the upsides.”

Scientists have also warned that higher temperatures, water scarcity and more severe weather could offset the benefits of “global greening.”

“On the face of it, elevated CO2 boosting the foliage in dry country is good news and could assist forestry and agriculture in such areas; however there will be secondary effects that are likely to influence water availability, the carbon cycle, fire regimes and biodiversity, for example,” CSIRO’s Donahue cautioned.

[Seth]

"Witch hunt" implies that the hunt is unjust because witches don't exist. Hunting Communists in the US government was a very real necessity, as the Communists were in fact working to destroy the United States and needed to be rooted out and prosecuted for doing so.

I remember the witch hunts, generated by the media, for paedophiles in Britain. One woman even got her surgery attacked because the sign on her building said, "paediatrician".
The term "witch-hunt" doesnt' suggest that the object of the hunt does not exist. Only that those involved see the object of the hunt everywhere they look, even when it isn't there.

But in the case of the "Red Scare," it was there, and that's the point.

And it's still there today, only more so. We have a Marxist in the oval office.

[Animavore]

"Witch hunt" implies that the hunt is unjust because witches don't exist. Hunting Communists in the US government was a very real necessity, as the Communists were in fact working to destroy the United States and needed to be rooted out and prosecuted for doing so.

I remember the witch hunts, generated by the media, for paedophiles in Britain. One woman even got her surgery attacked because the sign on her building said, "paediatrician".
The term "witch-hunt" doesnt' suggest that the object of the hunt does not exist. Only that those involved see the object of the hunt everywhere they look, even when it isn't there.

But in the case of the "Red Scare," it was there, and that's the point.

And it's still there today, only more so. We have a Marxist in the oval office.

Yes. And paedophiles are there too. It doesn't stop mobs on a mission hunting out innocents when wound up by propoganda videos.

[Animavore]

Climate scientists often shriek about the supposed downsides of increased carbon dioxide emissions: a warmer planet, rising seas, impending doom, John Cusack, etc.

Why do the denialist side always lie? Climate scientists have always been quite open and balanced in listing the positives and negatives.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/global- ... atives.htm

[Animavore]

Lol! The group even mentioned in the denialist article above, the CSIRO, acknowledge that climate change is a thing.
http://www.csiro.au/Outcomes/Climate.aspx

Fucking dishonest journalism

[Seth]

"Witch hunt" implies that the hunt is unjust because witches don't exist. Hunting Communists in the US government was a very real necessity, as the Communists were in fact working to destroy the United States and needed to be rooted out and prosecuted for doing so.

I remember the witch hunts, generated by the media, for paedophiles in Britain. One woman even got her surgery attacked because the sign on her building said, "paediatrician".
The term "witch-hunt" doesnt' suggest that the object of the hunt does not exist. Only that those involved see the object of the hunt everywhere they look, even when it isn't there.

But in the case of the "Red Scare," it was there, and that's the point.

And it's still there today, only more so. We have a Marxist in the oval office.

Yes. And paedophiles are there too. It doesn't stop mobs on a mission hunting out innocents when wound up by propoganda videos.

Appeal to the consequences of a belief fallacy.

[Animavore]

"Witch hunt" implies that the hunt is unjust because witches don't exist. Hunting Communists in the US government was a very real necessity, as the Communists were in fact working to destroy the United States and needed to be rooted out and prosecuted for doing so.

I remember the witch hunts, generated by the media, for paedophiles in Britain. One woman even got her surgery attacked because the sign on her building said, "paediatrician".
The term "witch-hunt" doesnt' suggest that the object of the hunt does not exist. Only that those involved see the object of the hunt everywhere they look, even when it isn't there.

But in the case of the "Red Scare," it was there, and that's the point.

And it's still there today, only more so. We have a Marxist in the oval office.

Yes. And paedophiles are there too. It doesn't stop mobs on a mission hunting out innocents when wound up by propoganda videos.

Appeal to the consequences of a belief fallacy.

No it's not. I haven't said that the red scare is false because believing in the truth of it leads to bad consequences. In fact I already established a few posts ago that Communist spying was a thing. If you remember, my point was that for witch hunts to happen it doesn't require that a threat has to not have any truth behind it what-so-ever.

[mistermack]

Useful idiots are often complacent and obedient. That's one of the purposes of Marxist propaganda and indoctrination: Never question Marxism, because questioning Marxism (or in this case AGW) is "counterrevolutionary" and will be punished.

I seem to remember Richard Muller et al being allowed question AGW freely. The IPCC, NOAA, NASA and others even handed them their data no problems.

What's this obsession with Richard Muller?
Are you trying to paint him as a denier? From what I've heard, he supports the silly notion of MMGW.

He did debunk the Mann lies about the medieval warm period, and the straightening of the hockey stick, but that was just stating the obvious, and everybody knew it anyway. Apart from that, he's well and truly on message in the MMGW debate, from what I remember anyway.

[piscator]

Useful idiots are often complacent and obedient. That's one of the purposes of Marxist propaganda and indoctrination: Never question Marxism, because questioning Marxism (or in this case AGW) is "counterrevolutionary" and will be punished.

I seem to remember Richard Muller et al being allowed question AGW freely. The IPCC, NOAA, NASA and others even handed them their data no problems.

What's this obsession with Richard Muller?

He was probably the last honest denier.

[mistermack]

What's this obsession with Richard Muller?

He was probably the last honest denier.

As far as I know, he's never been a denier. He's a proponent. Maybe his crime is not being rabid enough.

[piscator]

What's this obsession with Richard Muller?

He was probably the last honest denier.

As far as I know, he's never been a denier.

Your sources suck.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/opini ... .html?_r=0

[Seth]

Appeal to the consequences of a belief fallacy.

No it's not. I haven't said that the red scare is false because believing in the truth of it leads to bad consequences. In fact I already established a few posts ago that Communist spying was a thing. If you remember, my point was that for witch hunts to happen it doesn't require that a threat has to not have any truth behind it what-so-ever.

Please excuse me for misinterpreting your statement. While it is true that a "witch hunt" does not require any truth behind the rhetoric that stirs up the emotions, I took your statement more broadly as implying that there was no actual threat behind the hunt (not "witch hunt," actual hunt) for Communists and Communist influences in our government. The "Red Scare" was not a "witch hunt" precisely because Communists actually did, and still do infest our government.