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Bass players

Post by Tero » Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:20 pm

Had a discussion with Beatles fans on bass players. Nobody read my post there so I am dumping it here for better links. That other forum has no working links.

Helmut Hattler of Kraan is my top plectrum guitarist, certainly inspired by the pioneering work of McCartney. He can play lead of just bass, as in many Kraan era pieces.
playlist of his solo work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecRzG3L ... 1DE721F048

Bass camp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyBZHgt7lGQ

Clarke and Pastorius are good, but as a Finn I have to go with Pohjola as all time best, jazz or rock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7PytBH8DtI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OPgI31Fc9Y

He only composed instrumentals.

Best bassist in a trio is a split between Geddy Lee and Jack Bruce. Even with 40 years, Bruce with just a few years in Cream is a hard one to beat. Could be mostly my listening to Fresh Cream till the LP was no longer playable. I was inexperienced as a listener, but I could still hear a clear difference between the Jimi Hendrix album I had at the time and Fresh Cream. Noel Redding was a guitarist on bass. If I were to ever take lessons, I would not need sheet music for I'm So Glad, I've memorized the bass part.

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Post by piscator » Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:33 pm

Dam iwanna slappa dat bass...


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Post by piscator » Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:45 pm

My partner's babydaddy is a session guy and hotshit surfer from Sonora. He swears by Abe's recipe for roasted bass...


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Post by Tero » Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:46 pm

Well sure, boobs always improve bass, Jeff Beck made a great discovery.


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Post by Tero » Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:57 pm

one more, as it is Rush

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Post by Tero » Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:01 pm

It was not bad but this is pretty much a carbon copy of Geddy's playing

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Post by piscator » Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:03 pm

Tero wrote:Well sure, bo bo ba BOOTSY Baby!!! always improve bass...

Well said. Jimi could have been the Bootsy of the gitar if he ate mo' collard greens...




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Another Friggen Berklee Alum...

Post by piscator » Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:33 am

Esperanza Spalding is a 20-something 5-diamond 90-pound tour de force that composes, arranges, sings, plays, engineers and produces her own as well as others' recordings, and runs a band like Duke ...






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Post by piscator » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:05 am

Tero wrote:Well sure, boobs always improve bass, Jeff Beck made a great discovery.

Tal Wilkenfeld has serious chops, killer phrasing, and outstanding frontman tone that still sounds great very loud with mic'd rock and jazz drums, which has done more than her looks to lift her from the ranks of session cats...




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Re: Bass players

Post by Tero » Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:55 pm

Solo with tape loops

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Post by Tero » Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:09 pm

Back to McCartney, his genius is more in composing for the bass, rather than fancy playing. Any bass wizard of today can play his parts, such as Come Together, but they aren't really composing parts that add to the song the way he did. They all have the solo bit and fast playing that shows off...well, the wizardry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHBj6BVd048

The part for Revolution needs to be on the low end, just like this. It's the ideal part for the song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJtxXZ5kaJc

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Re: Bass players

Post by piscator » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:58 am

Tero wrote:Solo with tape loops

Speaking of "Guitarists on bass", most of "Thinking like a bass player" is in choosing chord voicings that don't sound muddy. The next step is locking in with or syncopating against tuned percussion. Beyond that, it becomes a matter of taste and the dictates of the music when and how the bass is played like a lead or rhythm section instrument. Very few people can lead a jazz band with a bass for more than a song or two, especially without using a bow to increase the instrument's expressive capabilities to something faintly close to a guitar or violin. A rock band lead by a bass has to be built around the bass and drums, like Rush or RHCP.

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Post by Tero » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:02 am

Yeah, Rush. Quite the job to arrange music like that, with the drummer tying parts together.

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Re: Bass players

Post by piscator » Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:51 am

Clarke covers Bird on double bass @ Newport:


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