Another shot at the case against gnus

[Tero]

Trained officer shoots pal in ass with gum...supposed to be pellet gun
http://www.ts.fi/uutiset/kotimaa/725258 ... eluaseeksi

sorry for the sucky tranlation

The officer shot his friend - he thought the gun toy weapon
MIDDLE EAST | Turun Sanomat 20.01.2015 18:41 |
Updated 20/01/2015 20:12
The two friends sloppy play led to serious injuries to the man in Raisio.

Man shot his friend accidentally robust hand gun, because he thought set muovikuulapistooliksi.

The shooter worked at the time of the armed forces as an officer. Hand weapon in his hand, gave the armed forces wage a soldier working man.

The event occurred when four men spent the evening raisio kind of private residences. Friendster had enjoyed during the evening a few beers.

Two pals played while standing struggle for the game. The officer was lying on the floor behind them, choosing a laptop computer music.

Homeowner, military, former military agreement, the officer crawled beside and he wanted to choose a song. For some reason, he pushed Glock 17 characters long gun officer's hand.

Pals was a struggle in games was used to amuse the shots had been fired plastic ball-gun each other. The officer thought that his hand was a toy is used, and so he aimed for his friend was standing on the buttocks and fired.

The bullet went through the abdomen and came out on the side.

The court judged the weapons to look identical

Everything in the apartment were the men of the events told in the same way. Each of them held the event as a misfortune. Any kind of dispute was not.

Gun owner could not explain what caused him to push the gun to warn his friend's hand. The man said it believed that the gun was unloaded.

The shooter again told the court that in no way could have foreseen the gun right. The boys were in earlier meetings with shooters home owner plastic airsoft gun that resembled a considerable rise to the damage the gun.

Southwest Finland District Court to examine the weapons and came to the same conclusion, reportedly with the shooter. The right view of the weapons was very easy to mistake appearance. Similarly, the difference in weight was not so significant, that alarm bells should have been ringing automatically.

The prosecutor demanded punishment for men to set are handled primarily aggravated assault and aggravated injury, in the alternative. Who is the victim did not want the punishment friends.

The district court sentenced the shooter's injury, and firearms crime 100 days fine. Gun owner got the same acts in 80 days fine.

The event took place in 2013.

TS Rebekah HÄRKÖNEN

It actually said "the owner of the apartment for some reason shoved a Glock 17 in the hand of his guest." On previous visits he had given the guest a toy gun (pellet gun) identical to the Glock in appearance.

[Seth]

What? A gun accident in some indeterminate Scandinavian country? Can't happen, there are no guns there!

Anyway, stupidity is its own reward. I suppose this means that every "officer" in the country should be disarmed.



Firearms safety rule No. 1: Never allow the muzzle of a firearm to cover anything that you are not willing to destroy.

Firearms safety rule No. 1A: Make sure that anything that looks like a firearm, isn't, prior to violating rule No. 1.

And that's why we don't let kids play with toy guns...ever.

Trained officer shoots pal in ass with gum...supposed to be pellet gun
http://www.ts.fi/uutiset/kotimaa/725258 ... eluaseeksi

sorry for the sucky tranlation

The officer shot his friend - he thought the gun toy weapon
MIDDLE EAST | Turun Sanomat 20.01.2015 18:41 |
Updated 20/01/2015 20:12
The two friends sloppy play led to serious injuries to the man in Raisio.

Man shot his friend accidentally robust hand gun, because he thought set muovikuulapistooliksi.

The shooter worked at the time of the armed forces as an officer. Hand weapon in his hand, gave the armed forces wage a soldier working man.

The event occurred when four men spent the evening raisio kind of private residences. Friendster had enjoyed during the evening a few beers.

Two pals played while standing struggle for the game. The officer was lying on the floor behind them, choosing a laptop computer music.

Homeowner, military, former military agreement, the officer crawled beside and he wanted to choose a song. For some reason, he pushed Glock 17 characters long gun officer's hand.

Pals was a struggle in games was used to amuse the shots had been fired plastic ball-gun each other. The officer thought that his hand was a toy is used, and so he aimed for his friend was standing on the buttocks and fired.

The bullet went through the abdomen and came out on the side.

The court judged the weapons to look identical

Everything in the apartment were the men of the events told in the same way. Each of them held the event as a misfortune. Any kind of dispute was not.

Gun owner could not explain what caused him to push the gun to warn his friend's hand. The man said it believed that the gun was unloaded.

The shooter again told the court that in no way could have foreseen the gun right. The boys were in earlier meetings with shooters home owner plastic airsoft gun that resembled a considerable rise to the damage the gun.

Southwest Finland District Court to examine the weapons and came to the same conclusion, reportedly with the shooter. The right view of the weapons was very easy to mistake appearance. Similarly, the difference in weight was not so significant, that alarm bells should have been ringing automatically.

The prosecutor demanded punishment for men to set are handled primarily aggravated assault and aggravated injury, in the alternative. Who is the victim did not want the punishment friends.

The district court sentenced the shooter's injury, and firearms crime 100 days fine. Gun owner got the same acts in 80 days fine.

The event took place in 2013.

TS Rebekah HÄRKÖNEN

It actually said "the owner of the apartment for some reason shoved a Glock 17 in the hand of his guest." On previous visits he had given the guest a toy gun (pellet gun) identical to the Glock in appearance.

[JimC]

When I was a young bloke, I had a lot of fun with an air rifle (we called 'em slug guns). One day, I had a friend over. We were eating peanuts. I forced a piece of peanut into the breech, casually pointed it at my friend's hand, and fired. That piece of peanut broke the skin, and caused a nasty little wound! My friend Dave was not impressed...

Mea culpa...

[Tero]

Jan 20

Last night in a small town north of me (Population 100 or less...called Elmo, MO) a 5 year old boy picked up a gun on the table and killed his 9 months older brother. Just wanted to add this one to the collection since it will probably not make the big time news.

[Hermit]

“Guns themselves are not dangerous. On their own, they have no ability to do anything.” All good then. Pew. I was worried for a moment.

[Tero]

What? A gun accident in some indeterminate Scandinavian country? Can't happen, there are no guns there!

Anyway, stupidity is its own reward. I suppose this means that every "officer" in the country should be disarmed.



Firearms safety rule No. 1: Never allow the muzzle of a firearm to cover anything that you are not willing to destroy.

Firearms safety rule No. 1A: Make sure that anything that looks like a firearm, isn't, prior to violating rule No. 1.

And that's why we don't let kids play with toy guns...ever.

They have a very highrate of gun ownership in Finland. You might be able to point them at someone, as long as there are no witnesses. But you can never shoot them. Recent arctic Safari dude shot the tires out of a people's car as they were stealing his snowmobile gas. He got a big fine, loss of gun but no jail.

[Seth]

What? A gun accident in some indeterminate Scandinavian country? Can't happen, there are no guns there!

Anyway, stupidity is its own reward. I suppose this means that every "officer" in the country should be disarmed.



Firearms safety rule No. 1: Never allow the muzzle of a firearm to cover anything that you are not willing to destroy.

Firearms safety rule No. 1A: Make sure that anything that looks like a firearm, isn't, prior to violating rule No. 1.

And that's why we don't let kids play with toy guns...ever.

They have a very highrate of gun ownership in Finland. You might be able to point them at someone, as long as there are no witnesses. But you can never shoot them. Recent arctic Safari dude shot the tires out of a people's car as they were stealing his snowmobile gas. He got a big fine, loss of gun but no jail.

Which is ridiculous...him being charged that is. He was using reasonable force to arrest criminals. Merely because a gun is discharged in the vicinity of a person or persons doesn't make it either unsafe or illegal. Shooting out tires, if done properly, is perfectly appropriate force to stop the escape of a criminal.

[Gallstones]

Firearms safety rule No. 1: Never allow the muzzle of a firearm to cover anything that you are not willing to destroy.

It's rule No. 2
1 is: Every gun is loaded

[Seth]

Firearms safety rule No. 1: Never allow the muzzle of a firearm to cover anything that you are not willing to destroy.

It's rule No. 2
1 is: Every gun is loaded

Around here, it's number one because your number one is simply assumed to be true of every firearm at all times, and in my house, it's literally true because there is nothing more useless than an unloaded gun. But technically you're correct.

[Gallstones]

Firearms safety rule No. 1: Never allow the muzzle of a firearm to cover anything that you are not willing to destroy.

It's rule No. 2
1 is: Every gun is loaded

Around here, it's number one because your number one is simply assumed to be true of every firearm at all times, and in my house, it's literally true because there is nothing more useless than an unloaded gun. But technically you're correct.

Not that it is relevant but you are equivocating.
Rule number one is--as your own example attests--All guns are loaded.
If Rule number one is not "All guns are loaded" then there is no need for any of the other rules.

It's common sense.




BTW, it isn't my number one, it is Jeff Cooper's and the NRA's number one.

[Seth]

Firearms safety rule No. 1: Never allow the muzzle of a firearm to cover anything that you are not willing to destroy.

It's rule No. 2
1 is: Every gun is loaded

Around here, it's number one because your number one is simply assumed to be true of every firearm at all times, and in my house, it's literally true because there is nothing more useless than an unloaded gun. But technically you're correct.

Not that it is relevant but you are equivocating.
Rule number one is--as your own example attests--All guns are loaded.
If Rule number one is not "All guns are loaded" then there is no need for any of the other rules.

It's common sense.




BTW, it isn't my number one, it is Jeff Cooper's and the NRA's number one.

Okay, you're right, it's number one. I was indeed equivocating.

[Seth]

A man in Tomball, Texas, was startled out of his sleep by the sound of someone kicking in his front door on Monday night.

He quickly retrieved his firearm, ready defend his life and property — though he likely didn’t anticipate the intense firefight that would occur.

Two suspects and homeowner traded more than 30 shots during the aggressive home invasion, KHOU-TV reports.

Harris County Assistant Chief Deputy Mark Herman told KPRC-TV that the homeowner was “in fear for his life” when he opened fire on the suspects who invaded his home. He couldn’t confirm whether anyone was hit by gunfire during the exchange.

“It appears to just be a random home invasion. There again, the gentlemen was keen enough to have his pistol for protection,” he added.

The suspects were reportedly still at large on Tuesday. Witnesses reported seeing them flee the scene in a red Dodge pickup truck.

More from KPRC-TV:

[JimC]

Just another Saturday night in any Texas town...

[klr]

Yet another reason why I am unlikely to move to Texas any time soon.

[Seth]

Yet another reason why I am unlikely to move to Texas any time soon.

And you think it can't happen to you?

Rly?