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Post by klr » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:59 pm

My mother likes The Blues Brothers and she's in her mid-70's :lol:
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Post by rainbow » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:00 am

klr wrote:My mother likes The Blues Brothers and she's in her mid-70's :lol:
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Post by Animavore » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:24 pm

American Sniper is one of those films which could've done with being 30-40 minutes longer. So much stuff glossed over. Characters secondary to the main in need of fleshing out.
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Post by Animavore » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:32 am

What were those things they were nailing or pinning into yer man's coffin at the end of American Sniper?
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Animavore wrote:What were those things they were nailing or pinning into yer man's coffin at the end of American Sniper?
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Post by piscator » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:58 am

Those are teammate's SEAL Tridents, taken from their uniforms. A tradition at SEAL funerals.

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Animavore wrote:American Sniper is one of those films which could've done with being 30-40 minutes longer. So much stuff glossed over. Characters secondary to the main in need of fleshing out.
Clint left out key factual narratives to insert bullshit.
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What was the madeup shit about the sniper duel with "Mustafa"?

There were a few guys in Iraq with Dragunovs and Iranian Steyers, but "Mustapha" (who did sell videos) was baited out and ground checked by by standard issue US Marines.
Kyle talks about a sniper killed through a missing brick from a moderate range, but he didn't say he did it. Nor was there a big emotional or tactical drama around the hunt for some particularly elusive sniper. Both Biggles and Marc Lee were hit during firefights with AK fire, not by some sniper a thousand meters away.

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piscator wrote:
Animavore wrote:American Sniper is one of those films which could've done with being 30-40 minutes longer. So much stuff glossed over. Characters secondary to the main in need of fleshing out.
Clint left out key factual narratives to insert bullshit.
Trigger Warning!!!1! :
What was the madeup shit about the sniper duel with "Mustafa"?

There were a few guys in Iraq with Dragunovs and Iranian Steyers, but "Mustapha" (who did sell videos) was baited out and ground checked by by standard issue US Marines.
Kyle talks about a sniper killed through a missing brick from a moderate range, but he didn't say he did it. Nor was there a big emotional or tactical drama around the hunt for some particularly elusive sniper. Both Biggles and Marc Lee were hit during firefights with AK fire, not by some sniper a thousand meters away.
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Worse, if I'm not mistaken, he says the target is more than 2000 meters away, and then makes a one-shot head shot kill when he can't even see the sniper, who is concealed behind waving laundry. I'm going to have to read the book again, but that "shot" really spoiled it for me. Most everything else was believable, if a bit thin on characterization.
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Post by Animavore » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:28 am

I had a feeling that part referred to above was bullshit. Too
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Enemy at the Gates.
That book has been on my to-read list ever since I heard Chris Kyle on an interview on Irish radio. I didn't realise he'd died in the meantime until I the end of the film. I'm definitely going to have to read it now.
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Post by piscator » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:16 am

Animavore wrote:I had a feeling that part referred to above was bullshit. Too
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Enemy at the Gates.

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"Over 2100 meters", through the raghead's scope as he was laying prone taking up the creep from his shiite Eastern Bloc trigger assembly so he could gun down another American innocently erecting a friendship wall around Sadr City. :tut:

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piscator wrote:
Animavore wrote:I had a feeling that part referred to above was bullshit. Too
Trigger Warning!!!1! :
Enemy at the Gates.

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"Over 2100 meters", through the raghead's scope as he was laying prone taking up the creep from his shiite Eastern Bloc trigger assembly so he could gun down another American innocently erecting a friendship wall around Sadr City. :tut:
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Wasn't through the scope. I was waiting for them to rip off Carlos Hathcock, who actually did shoot a notorious Viet Cong sniper through his scope during the Vietnam war. He did hit him in the head though. Not likely, not with one shot at that range. That's .50 BMG territory.
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Trigger Warning!!!1! :
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Post by piscator » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:52 am

Seth wrote:
piscator wrote:
Animavore wrote:I had a feeling that part referred to above was bullshit. Too
Trigger Warning!!!1! :
Enemy at the Gates.

Trigger Warning!!!1! :
"Over 2100 meters", through the raghead's scope as he was laying prone taking up the creep from his shiite Eastern Bloc trigger assembly so he could gun down another American innocently erecting a friendship wall around Sadr City. :tut:
Trigger Warning!!!1! :
Wasn't through the scope. I was waiting for them to rip off Carlos Hathcock, who actually did shoot a notorious Viet Cong sniper through his scope during the Vietnam war. He did hit him in the head though. Not likely, not with one shot at that range. That's .50 BMG territory.
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You'd rather pack a .338 Lapua...

And since the raghead was lying prone with with his eye to his scope...Jedi ChrisTex had to aim for the scope, the dime-sized spot between the eyes, or Haji's other eye. Considering the heat monkeys were probably jumpin' pretty strong midday in Baghdad, Kylenobi probably took the snap shot through the scope since it left a greater margin for error and, plus, Haji's reticle was likely visible, giving a smaller spot to aim for. I say that because ChrisTex Kylenobi was boxin' it up before the bullet arrived, and he didn't have to check himself. He knew.
Had he aimed between the eyes, the whole platoon would have had to cross town, take that highrise, and measured the distance from each eye to the bullet hole just to bust The Legend's balls if it was off-center.. That didn't happen, so...

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piscator wrote:
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piscator wrote:
Animavore wrote:I had a feeling that part referred to above was bullshit. Too
Trigger Warning!!!1! :
Enemy at the Gates.

Trigger Warning!!!1! :
"Over 2100 meters", through the raghead's scope as he was laying prone taking up the creep from his shiite Eastern Bloc trigger assembly so he could gun down another American innocently erecting a friendship wall around Sadr City. :tut:
Trigger Warning!!!1! :
Wasn't through the scope. I was waiting for them to rip off Carlos Hathcock, who actually did shoot a notorious Viet Cong sniper through his scope during the Vietnam war. He did hit him in the head though. Not likely, not with one shot at that range. That's .50 BMG territory.
Trigger Warning!!!1! :
You'd rather pack a .338 Lapua...

And since the raghead was lying prone with with his eye to his scope...Jedi ChrisTex had to aim for the scope, the dime-sized spot between the eyes, or Haji's other eye. Considering the heat monkeys were probably jumpin' pretty strong midday in Baghdad, Kylenobi probably took the snap shot through the scope since it left a greater margin for error and, plus, Haji's reticle was likely visible, giving a smaller spot to aim for. I say that because ChrisTex Kylenobi was boxin' it up before the bullet arrived, and he didn't have to check himself. He knew.
Had he aimed between the eyes, the whole platoon would have had to cross town, take that highrise, and measured the distance from each eye to the bullet hole just to bust The Legend's balls if it was off-center.. That didn't happen, so...
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Unfortunately for this theory, and for the film, according to the layout of the nests, the raghead was at about a 45 degree angle to Kyle-san shooting at soldiers erecting a wall to Kyle's right, so the bullet should have entered the side of the jihadi-corpse's head and no flash from the scope would have been visible to Kyle at that angle.

All Eastwood had to do was avoid the impulse to make him a superhero and reduce the range to something reasonable under a thousand meters. I was able to hit a 1 inch wide stick of dynamite at 784 meters with my .338 Lapua Magnum, but it took me two shots to do it. I've made first-round hits out to about 1200 meters, but they were torso targets where any hit counts, not head shots. It's possible to make a 2100 meter first-round hit with a .338, but the hit probabilities are very, very low. Even the world-record sniper shot by a Canadian marksman using a .50BMG Barrett took two rounds.
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