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Post by MrJonno » Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:53 am

Tautology.
Is about logic while politics is not about logic (or right or wrong) its about priorities and social stability.
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Post by piscator » Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:14 pm

Tautologies aren't necessarily fallacies, but they are necessarily true.

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Post by AvtomatKalashnikova » Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:39 pm

MrJonno wrote:
Because I get the vote basically (could go on about morality but right and wrong in the end aren't that important merely keeping the masses happy)
If masses are kept happy with raping contest, is ok? Right and wrong always is important, otherwise man no different from amoral beast. :prof:

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Post by laklak » Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:31 pm

Plenty of people higher up the heap than I am, but there's a lot more on the lower slopes. I don't want to be at the very top, because that draws too much attention. Somewhere in the top quintile is fine. I'd like to be a bit further up than I am, because I want an airplane and I can't really afford one at the moment. Well, I could, but then I'd have to go do some of that "work" stuff, and not doing that is far more important than having an airplane. Maybe an ultralight, I could afford one of those, particularly if I sold a boat.
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Post by MrJonno » Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:46 pm

AvtomatKalashnikova wrote:
MrJonno wrote:
Because I get the vote basically (could go on about morality but right and wrong in the end aren't that important merely keeping the masses happy)
If masses are kept happy with raping contest, is ok? Right and wrong always is important, otherwise man no different from amoral beast. :prof:
If that is happening then your problem isn't your government. I'm certainly not hanging around to protest I'm fucking off somewhere a bit more pleasant.

The only place right and wrong exists is inside your head, and if enough people think genocide or mass rape is ok then that's your current definition of good. After all who actually considers themselves to be evil?
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Post by AvtomatKalashnikova » Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:57 pm

MrJonno wrote:
If that is happening then your problem isn't your government. I'm certainly not hanging around to protest I'm fucking off somewhere a bit more pleasant.

The only place right and wrong exists is inside your head, and if enough people think genocide or mass rape is ok then that's your current definition of good. After all who actually considers themselves to be evil?
Perhaps you can apply subjective morality of yours for profitable career in American Department of Waterboarding & Rectal Feeding? Is only wrong in head, yes?

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Post by Blind groper » Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:55 pm

Morality, like principles and human rights, are arbitrary, subjective, and changeable. That does not make them unimportant. They are extraordinarily important, even if they are "all in the head".

However, the fuzzy nature of these things means we need to think them through very carefully. The most basic principle involved in morality, principles, and human rights is caring for human beings. If a principle, human right, or moral idea does not result in caring for human beings, then it should be seriously reviewed.

That is one reason why the American fixation on gun freedom is wrong. It does not result in caring for humans. It does the opposite, and results in 100,000 Americans every year receiving a bullet through some part of their anatomy.

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Post by AvtomatKalashnikova » Mon Jan 05, 2015 7:48 pm

Blind groper wrote:
That is one reason why the American fixation on gun freedom is wrong. It does not result in caring for humans. It does the opposite, and results in 100,000 Americans every year receiving a bullet through some part of their anatomy.
I think you is posting this in wrong topic, comrade? Is not topic of guns here, seems if you wish to voice wrong opinions on topic of firearm rights, is entire forum for this!

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Post by MrJonno » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:16 pm

Morality, like principles and human rights, are arbitrary, subjective, and changeable. That does not make them unimportant. They are extraordinarily important, even if they are "all in the head".
They are important in the way that loving your wife or liking 80's music is important. While you can vote to impose them you can't really be rational about it
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Post by AvtomatKalashnikova » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:26 pm

MrJonno wrote:
Morality, like principles and human rights, are arbitrary, subjective, and changeable. That does not make them unimportant. They are extraordinarily important, even if they are "all in the head".
They are important in the way that loving your wife or liking 80's music is important. While you can vote to impose them you can't really be rational about it
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Post by Seth » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:58 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:What is a "SWAF" anyway? :dunno:
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Post by AvtomatKalashnikova » Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:32 pm

Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:What is a "SWAF" anyway? :dunno:
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:10 pm

AvtomatKalashnikova wrote:
MrJonno wrote:
If that is happening then your problem isn't your government. I'm certainly not hanging around to protest I'm fucking off somewhere a bit more pleasant.

The only place right and wrong exists is inside your head, and if enough people think genocide or mass rape is ok then that's your current definition of good. After all who actually considers themselves to be evil?
Perhaps you can apply subjective morality of yours for profitable career in American Department of Waterboarding & Rectal Feeding? Is only wrong in head, yes?
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Post by AvtomatKalashnikova » Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:20 pm

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:lol: Whoever is running this sock is doing a good job! (I've got a pretty good idea who it is).
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Post by Seth » Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:28 am

AvtomatKalashnikova wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
:lol: Whoever is running this sock is doing a good job! (I've got a pretty good idea who it is).
Why is ask of sock? Avtomat is have many sock! Noting old favorite is this one:

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Was nice socks, comfortable in theory but not so good for hours in bread line.
Is made in Taiwan socks... Soviets produced nothing of value excepting perhaps the AK...this is the wages of Communism.

When are the people of Russia going to put Putin out of everybody's misery using perhaps the famous AK? Before he blows up the world thermonuclearlly, pajoust?
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