41 men targeted but 1,147 people killed: US drone strikes

[piscator]

That sword cuts both ways, Baby.

Talking about which, I wonder how long it will be, before the drone starts to cut both ways?
It can only be a matter of time before the terrorists make much more effective use of it than the allies ever did.

That's a dumb fkn assumption considering how good they are at building planes and missiles and computers and shit.

But what is a suicide bomber at the helm of a 747 if not a drone Arab smartbomb?

Merry Xmas BTW!

[Seth]

Lesson: Don't hang around with Islamic terrorists.

Gosh yes, a lesson that will certainly be taken to heart.

Brilliant.

Why isn't it working?

Who cares?

Probably the next bunch of American killed by the newly radicalised Islamists.

Seriously can't you work out that these attacks are their best recruitment motivator?

Seriously, can't you work out that there's no other alternative? There is no making peace with these fucks. They don't want peace they want us dead and they want to war on the infidel world until the Caliphate comes to pass and everyone on earth is either Muslim or Dhimmi, or dead.

These are not people who can be reasoned with, they are fanatics and the only solution to their violent behavior is to kill them.

If you can't comprehend that, then perhaps your Dhimmitude has already begun.

[Seth]

What he's too thick to realise is that the same logic he's using is what jihadists use.

Might be the same logic, though I doubt it, but the intent is entirely different, which is what matters.

We're not killing people to bring about the world Caliphate, we're killing people to stop them from killing other people. Huge difference.

And they won't stop till we're all dead, Muslim or Dhimmi. We'll stop as soon as they stop killing other people.

[Seth]

What he's too thick to realise is that the same logic he's using is what jihadists use.

He knows, it comes down to whose got the bigger guns in the end.

Not necessarily bigger, just more of them and the resolve to use them to stop the slaughter of innocents.

[mistermack]

That sword cuts both ways, Baby.

Talking about which, I wonder how long it will be, before the drone starts to cut both ways?
It can only be a matter of time before the terrorists make much more effective use of it than the allies ever did.

That's a dumb fkn assumption considering how good they are at building planes and missiles and computers and shit.

But what is a suicide bomber at the helm of a 747 if not a drone Arab smartbomb?

Merry Xmas BTW!

They will be buying them off the shelf. No need to make your own.
You only need two or three of the hobby ones bolted together, to pose a threat to a jet on take-off.
Or to carry a really nasty nail-bomb into a football stadium.

Merry Christmas too

[piscator]

Meh We already have laws and blimps against that sort of mischief. It was covered in one of those 70s disaster movies.

[Seth]

But what is a suicide bomber at the helm of a 747 if not a drone Arab smartbomb?

Our cruise missiles are smarter than an Arab suicide bomber.

[piscator]

At least sometimes, huh?

Think of the market for defensive drones and AAA once those irate Salafis figure out how to work a RC joystick.... $$

[Seth]

At least sometimes, huh?

Think of the market for defensive drones and AAA once those irate Salafis figure out how to work a RC joystick.... $$

Yah. Some of them can carry 25 pounds, which is a lot of Semtex.

They're going to have to start issuing goose guns to Homeland Security.

I actually know a guy who designed an anti-drone drone. It can detect, track and fly over a drone and deploy an entangling net that will seize the rotors of the target.

The easiest solution is to jam the radio frequencies used to control them, which I'm quite sure HS is going to be doing over major events quite soon.

[JimC]

Lesson: Don't hang around with Islamic terrorists.

Yeah those silly children. And not to mention the women who would be killed if they left their men. Those women and children deserved everything they got.

Well, the as-yet unradicalized children are a very sad loss, but collateral damage is unavoidable in war. The radicalized ones who are trained to put on an explosive vest and blow shit up are lost to humanity anyway.

As for the women, well, they can always choose to slit their man's throat in the night and then ask for asylum in the US. But again, collateral damage is unavoidable in war.

You're a psychopath.

No, I'm a realist. "All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good (wo)men do nothing." Edmund Burke

You either resist evil or you don't, and if you don't, you're part of the problem not the solution.

The point is not whether killing vicious islamic terrorists should be done - it's a no-brainer.

The real point is pragmatic - is a drone campaign which clearly kills many others on top of the targets is worth the cost in terms of the way that it inflames anti-western sentiment?

[pErvinalia]

It is when your whole approach to life revolves around twisted conservative morals. That is, it's more important to some people to cut off their nose than to be worried that they are spiting their face.

[pErvinalia]

I'm sure that was a fuckup of the saying. Hopefully you know what I meant...

[JimC]

Those islamist cunts love to cut off noses...

[Seth]

The point is not whether killing vicious islamic terrorists should be done - it's a no-brainer.

The real point is pragmatic - is a drone campaign which clearly kills many others on top of the targets is worth the cost in terms of the way that it inflames anti-western sentiment?

Sure. It encourages non-belligerents to abandon relations and associations with terrorists, lest they get collaterally damaged. Your thesis is exactly what the terrorists count on when they deliberately hide among civilian non-combantant populations. We cannot allow them to get away with this, so shoving a Hellfire or JDAM up their ass regardless of who else is around is the appropriate tactic. The appropriate civilian response is to run away from terrorists as fast as you can and help us kill them quickly and cleanly so you can get back to to your peaceful life.

It's impossible to "inflame anti-western sentiment" any more than it's already "inflamed" by the terrorists themselves. And if you hang around terrorists because your sentiments are inflamed against the west, then you need to be just as dead as they will be because you're a terrorist too. When you lie down with pigs, you smell like pig shit. We need to blow the shit out of those kinds of pigs until they no longer exist.

[pErvinalia]

The point is not whether killing vicious islamic terrorists should be done - it's a no-brainer.

The real point is pragmatic - is a drone campaign which clearly kills many others on top of the targets is worth the cost in terms of the way that it inflames anti-western sentiment?

Sure. It encourages non-belligerents to abandon relations and associations with terrorists, lest they get collaterally damaged.

How do you know this?

What if they view the threat of terrorism raining down from the sky the same way we view terrorism here in the west - that is, we refuse to be dictated to by terrorists as to how we should live our lives?

The simple fact of the matter is, innocent people are being killed by US bombs. No amount of rationalisation or application of stupid conservative morals will change that fact. Enlightenment and civilisation are supposed to be about moving on from barbaric actions, not making justifications for them. You and your lot belong in a past more brutal time. Please fuck off back there.