Get your long undies out - here comes the Polar Vortex

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Get your long undies out - here comes the Polar Vortex

Post by macdoc » Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:02 am

Well that's about it.....a perfect Arctic dipole pattern is emerging...
Polar Vortex to Blast 200 Million People With Arctic Air
Alex Sosnowski
By Alex Sosnowski, Expert Senior Meteorologist
November 7, 2014; 7:41 PM ET
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Arctic air associated with the polar vortex will lunge into the North Central United States early next week and will expand southward and eastward to affect about 200 million people as the week progresses.
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Polar Vortex to Blast 200 Million People With Arctic Air

Warm Arctic, Cold Continents
Changes in the Arctic Are Hitting Closer to Home

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Arctic atmospheric pressue.
The low Arctic pressure field is shown by purple colors in the figure for December 1968–1996. Strong Polar Vortex winds circle this pressure field, trapping cold air in the Arctic regions. In December 2009, this pattern broke down, Polar Vortex winds weakened (green colors) and cold Arctic air (which parallels the color contours) flowed southward.
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It’s a puzzle: How could warmth in the Arctic produce frigid conditions elsewhere?

NOAA scientists may have a clue.

Extremely cold winds have swept down through the Northern Hemisphere recently, reaching as far south as the state of Florida and causing record low temperatures in January. The unusually cold winter of 2009–2010 – which saw massive snowstorms dubbed “Snowpocalypse” and “Snowmageddon” — and the frigid start to 2011 in the eastern United States and Europe have scientists talking about what might be influencing the weather.

Dr. James Overland, a scientist at NOAA’s Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory (PMEL) in Seattle, has been studying the changing conditions in the Arctic for 30 years. He explains why the deterioration of the Polar Vortex could be leading to some of these extreme winter weather events.
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Re: Get your long undies out - here comes the Polar Vortex

Post by Seth » Sat Nov 08, 2014 4:27 am

The whole article is nothing but supposition and speculation with no science supporting any of it.

Maybe the breakdown of the polar vortex is Nature's way of cooling things off.

Or maybe it's a sign of an impending period of glaciation, a proposition that has exactly as much science behind it as global warming does.

Meh. :bored:
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Re: Get your long undies out - here comes the Polar Vortex

Post by JimC » Sat Nov 08, 2014 4:30 am

Seth wrote:The whole article is nothing but supposition and speculation with no science supporting any of it.

Maybe the breakdown of the polar vortex is Nature's way of cooling things off.

Or maybe it's a sign of an impending period of glaciation, a proposition that has exactly as much science behind it as global warming does.

Meh. :bored:
And of course you have a doctorate in physics to back up your meaningless assertions about a subject you know nothing about...
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Post by Seth » Sat Nov 08, 2014 4:34 am

JimC wrote:
Seth wrote:The whole article is nothing but supposition and speculation with no science supporting any of it.

Maybe the breakdown of the polar vortex is Nature's way of cooling things off.

Or maybe it's a sign of an impending period of glaciation, a proposition that has exactly as much science behind it as global warming does.

Meh. :bored:
And of course you have a doctorate in physics to back up your meaningless assertions about a subject you know nothing about...
Given the fact that the guy who does have one doesn't have a fucking clue and is talking out of his ass, my opinion is just as valid as his is.
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Post by JimC » Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:46 am

Seth wrote:

Given the fact that the guy who does have one doesn't have a fucking clue and is talking out of his ass, my opinion is just as valid as his is.
:funny:

So, what is your analytical breakdown of his errors in mathematical modelling and atmospheric physics to justify the "doesn't have a fucking clue and is talking out of his ass"?

Have you got a degree of any sort, Seth?

The "my opinion is just as valid as his is" is utterly and totally moronic, since your opinion is not grounded in anything that would lend it authority.

Care to match your "opinions" with Calilessaia in the fields of entomology and evolutionary biology?

Or Pappa in the intricacies of programming?

Or me in calculus?
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Post by macdoc » Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:13 am

Clueless as ever Seth and the irony is - it's just about to freeze your balls off.....reality bites at times

Just because you wander around in fog of incomprehension doesn't mean the rest of the world is so inflicted ....tho I've found a distress amount of it in the right wingdings of late.
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Post by Seth » Sat Nov 08, 2014 10:30 am

JimC wrote:
Seth wrote:

Given the fact that the guy who does have one doesn't have a fucking clue and is talking out of his ass, my opinion is just as valid as his is.
:funny:

So, what is your analytical breakdown of his errors in mathematical modelling and atmospheric physics to justify the "doesn't have a fucking clue and is talking out of his ass"?

Have you got a degree of any sort, Seth?

The "my opinion is just as valid as his is" is utterly and totally moronic, since your opinion is not grounded in anything that would lend it authority.

Care to match your "opinions" with Calilessaia in the fields of entomology and evolutionary biology?

Or Pappa in the intricacies of programming?

Or me in calculus?
As I said, the whole article is conjecture. The "expert" involved did not make any definitive statements about anything. He said essentially, "it's interesting."

In other words he said what an actual scientist says when there is no credible data upon which to draw a rational conclusion.
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Post by Seth » Sat Nov 08, 2014 10:31 am

macdoc wrote:Clueless as ever Seth and the irony is - it's just about to freeze your balls off.....reality bites at times
Not my balls, I've got the proper equipment for that sort of environment because I plan ahead and don't listen to fuckwits who insist that global cooling is caused by global warming.
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Post by piscator » Sat Nov 08, 2014 10:39 am

Well, "Global" for you might be a different concept than for most of us...

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Post by mistermack » Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:50 pm

JimC wrote:
Seth wrote:The whole article is nothing but supposition and speculation with no science supporting any of it.

Maybe the breakdown of the polar vortex is Nature's way of cooling things off.

Or maybe it's a sign of an impending period of glaciation, a proposition that has exactly as much science behind it as global warming does.

Meh. :bored:
And of course you have a doctorate in physics to back up your meaningless assertions about a subject you know nothing about...
I don't think a doctorate in physics would get you very far in climate forecasting.
In fact, all the climate science doctors and professors in the world, working together, haven't made much progress as yet.
They are very good at forecasting climate that has already happened though. I will give them that.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:23 pm

piscator wrote:Well, "Global" for you might be a different concept than for most of us...
Yep. While this cooling hits the northern hemisphere, Australia is already breaking heat records. Less than a year after all the previous records were broken.
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Post by mistermack » Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:58 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
piscator wrote:Well, "Global" for you might be a different concept than for most of us...
Yep. While this cooling hits the northern hemisphere, Australia is already breaking heat records. Less than a year after all the previous records were broken.
That really doesn't mean very much. Most people accept that there has been a small amount of global warming over the last 120 years. So records will be broken in some places.
That's pretty inevitable. But it's EXACTLY what would happen, if the warming was just natural climate variation.
And the climate DOES vary naturally. So take it, Australia. It's the price you pay for living in the oven.
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Post by macdoc » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:54 pm

Bullshit
as usual.
not one bit of science support for your crap.



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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:34 am

mistermack wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
piscator wrote:Well, "Global" for you might be a different concept than for most of us...
Yep. While this cooling hits the northern hemisphere, Australia is already breaking heat records. Less than a year after all the previous records were broken.
That really doesn't mean very much.
Well given piscator and I are responding to Seth's ignorant statement, yes it does mean much. Your ignorant statements on the other hand are a different type of stupidity.
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Post by Seth » Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:55 am

rEvolutionist wrote:
mistermack wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
piscator wrote:Well, "Global" for you might be a different concept than for most of us...
Yep. While this cooling hits the northern hemisphere, Australia is already breaking heat records. Less than a year after all the previous records were broken.
That really doesn't mean very much.
Well given piscator and I are responding to Seth's ignorant statement, yes it does mean much. Your ignorant statements on the other hand are a different type of stupidity.
Nine degrees F in Denver right now. Fucking global warming, never around when you need it... :cranky:
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