Ebola Nurse Leaves The Building

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Re: Ebola Nurse Leaves The Building

Post by piscator » Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:38 pm

The earliest and most fundamental power of government is taxation.
We know how Seth feels about taxation.
So much for Seth's use of the "Earliest and most fundamental power of government" argument.

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Re: Ebola Nurse Leaves The Building

Post by Seth » Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:20 pm

piscator wrote:The earliest and most fundamental power of government is taxation.
We know how Seth feels about taxation.
So much for Seth's use of the "Earliest and most fundamental power of government" argument.
No, it's not.
"If the shiny spot on the skin is white but does not appear to be more than skin deep and the hair in it has not turned white, the priest is to isolate the affected person for seven days. On the seventh day the priest is to examine them, and if he sees that the sore is unchanged and has not spread in the skin, he is to isolate them for another seven days." Lev. 15/4-5
Mosaic law is the first known publication of the concept of isolation ("quarantine", a 14th century term) of the ill.
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Re: Ebola Nurse Leaves The Building

Post by rainbow » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:49 am

Seth wrote: Mosaic law is the first known publication of the concept of isolation ("quarantine", a 14th century term) of the ill.
Hardly a Libertarian concept then is it?

Clearly what should be done from a Libertarian perspective is Nothing.

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Re: Ebola Nurse Leaves The Building

Post by cronus » Sat Nov 01, 2014 12:09 pm

Yeah, free market, put your money into coffins they'll be popular. :read:
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Re: Ebola Nurse Leaves The Building

Post by rainbow » Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:08 pm

Scumple wrote:Yeah, free market, put your money into coffins they'll be popular. :read:
Chlorine. There'll be a huge demand for chlorine.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:21 pm

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Post by MrJonno » Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:33 pm

The whole response to ebola has been right wing racist bigotry none of which based on science and reality.

You can't screen for ebola outside a 2 day wait in a lab, people will die but not as many from the cold ,flu and measles this winter
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:41 pm

And libertarianism...
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Re: Ebola Nurse Leaves The Building

Post by piscator » Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:05 pm

Seth wrote:
piscator wrote:The earliest and most fundamental power of government is taxation.
We know how Seth feels about taxation.
So much for Seth's use of the "Earliest and most fundamental power of government" argument.
No, it's not.
"If the shiny spot on the skin is white but does not appear to be more than skin deep and the hair in it has not turned white, the priest is to isolate the affected person for seven days. On the seventh day the priest is to examine them, and if he sees that the sore is unchanged and has not spread in the skin, he is to isolate them for another seven days." Lev. 15/4-5
Mosaic law is the first known publication of the concept of isolation ("quarantine", a 14th century term) of the ill.



Misquotes scripture to make his point. What a suppurating asshole. :nono:

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Re: Ebola Nurse Leaves The Building

Post by Hermit » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:29 pm

piscator wrote:Mosaic law is the first known publication of the concept of isolation ("quarantine", a 14th century term) of the ill.
Misquotes scripture to make his point. What a suppurating asshole. :nono:[/quote]It's not a misquote. It's entirely made up. There's no Lev. -1.25. But then, that's what D-K posterboy is well known for.

Every bed, whereon he lieth that hath the issue , is unclean : and every thing, whereon he sitteth , shall be unclean . And whosoever toucheth his bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even. [Leviticus 15:4-5] King James Version

Not quite what D-K posterboy quoted either.
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Post by Seth » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:45 pm

Hermit wrote:
piscator wrote:Misquotes scripture to make his point. What a suppurating asshole. :nono:
It's not a misquote. It's entirely made up. There's no Lev. -1.25. But then, that's what D-K posterboy is well known for.

Every bed, whereon he lieth that hath the issue , is unclean : and every thing, whereon he sitteth , shall be unclean . And whosoever toucheth his bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even. [Leviticus 15:4-5] King James Version

Not quite what D-K posterboy quoted either.
Well, I got the cite from Wikipedia and the cite is wrong, but here's the applicable section of Lev. 13, and no, I didn't make it up, so go fuck yourselves:
13 And the Lord spake unto Moses and Aaron, saying,

2 When a man shall have in the skin of his flesh a rising, a scab, or bright spot, and it be in the skin of his flesh like the plague of leprosy; then he shall be brought unto Aaron the priest, or unto one of his sons the priests:

3 And the priest shall look on the plague in the skin of the flesh: and when the hair in the plague is turned white, and the plague in sight be deeper than the skin of his flesh, it is a plague of leprosy: and the priest shall look on him, and pronounce him unclean.

4 If the bright spot be white in the skin of his flesh, and in sight be not deeper than the skin, and the hair thereof be not turned white; then the priest shall shut up him that hath the plague seven days:

5 And the priest shall look on him the seventh day: and, behold, if the plague in his sight be at a stay, and the plague spread not in the skin; then the priest shall shut him up seven days more:

6 And the priest shall look on him again the seventh day: and, behold, if the plague be somewhat dark, and the plague spread not in the skin, the priest shall pronounce him clean: it is but a scab: and he shall wash his clothes, and be clean.

7 But if the scab spread much abroad in the skin, after that he hath been seen of the priest for his cleansing, he shall be seen of the priest again.

8 And if the priest see that, behold, the scab spreadeth in the skin, then the priest shall pronounce him unclean: it is a leprosy.[/color]
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Re: Ebola Nurse Leaves The Building

Post by piscator » Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:19 am

The thing is, the Bible is not an historical record of any validity.
But if it were, I'd ask who paid for all those chariots and archers drowned in the Red Sea in Exodus (the book which predates Leviticus)? I suspect taxpayers did.
I'd also ask, "What does "...Until the even." supposed to mean?" Then I'd look it up, and find about half the answers say, ""Until the even" in the Old Testament means, "Until the evening"". Then reason that Seth is asserting that an afternoon of "unclean" constitutes "State Quarantine" as we know it. Then I'd be sad.
Not for Seth, but for the 30 seconds of my life spent on this I'll never get back. :nono:

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Re: Ebola Nurse Leaves The Building

Post by Seth » Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:32 am

piscator wrote:The thing is, the Bible is not an historical record of any validity.
And you know that how, exactly? Were you there?

But if it were, I'd ask who paid for all those chariots and archers drowned in the Red Sea in Exodus (the book which predates Leviticus)? I suspect taxpayers did.
I'd also ask, "What does "...Until the even." supposed to mean?" Then I'd look it up, and find about half the answers say, ""Until the even" in the Old Testament means, "Until the evening"". Then reason that Seth is asserting that an afternoon of "unclean" constitutes "State Quarantine" as we know it. Then I'd be sad.
Not for Seth, but for the 30 seconds of my life spent on this I'll never get back. :nono:
Every 30 seconds of your life I waste is 30 seconds closer to not having to read your tripe anymore...It's a small public service, but still....
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Re: Ebola Nurse Leaves The Building

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:35 am

Seth wrote:
piscator wrote:The thing is, the Bible is not an historical record of any validity.
And you know that how, exactly? Were you there?
He might have been. How do you know he wasn't?
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Re: Ebola Nurse Leaves The Building

Post by mistermack » Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:40 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
Seth wrote:
piscator wrote:The thing is, the Bible is not an historical record of any validity.
And you know that how, exactly? Were you there?
He might have been. How do you know he wasn't?
I don't think Seth understands the very simple and basic principle, that exceptional claims need exceptional verification evidence.

So if the bible was just claiming that jim begat fred who begat george, then nobody would give a fuck if it was true or not.

But a book that claims to be inspired by the creator of the universe, and even more crazily, has as a character who claims to be the ONE AND ONLY SON of the creator of the universe, well that needs to be treated as fiction, until it can be confirmed as true with 99.999% confidence.
At which point, you can start saying that it's possible.

Which makes the principle of religious tolerism a fools principle. It's giving respect to loonies.
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