Libertarian bloggers, ebola and black death

[piscator]

What's "full health coverage"?

Wake up after a debauch in Havana with a loose tooth? Go to a good dentist, there's one within a mile or two. Cost you less than $1. Questions?

Depends on your definition of "good."

And no, it does not cost you less than $1, it costs you every bit of freedom and human rights you ever had, and more...

Meh, you already gave that up when you got a Driver's License in America, so I can't really work up a lot of anxiety. Tell us some more scary stories about Cuba!

[mistermack]

What's "full health coverage"?

Ask Seth. It's what he ain't got, but the poorest people in Cuba HAVE got.

[Seth]

What's "full health coverage"?

Wake up after a debauch in Havana with a loose tooth? Go to a good dentist, there's one within a mile or two. Cost you less than $1. Questions?

And if you think it's all that good, why are you still here. Nobody's stopping you from flying INTO Cuba. Have a nice trip, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

I've been to Cuba. No one stopped me from sailing there either.

Nor would they, you're not a Cuban. However, if you tried to take a Cuban home to the US with you, things would go very differently, and difficultly for you.

[pErvinalia]

and agents of The United Fruit Company (including Juan Batista) routinely executed dissidents and buried them in banana patches all over Latin America.

Which excuses Che how, exactly?

The same pre-emptive excuse you use for "hypothesising" about when you and your tea-tard mates overthrow the evil Obama Marxist Empire.

You need to learn to distinguish between a theoretical argument and historical facts.

You need to learn how to not be hypocritical.

[piscator]

What's "full health coverage"?

Wake up after a debauch in Havana with a loose tooth? Go to a good dentist, there's one within a mile or two. Cost you less than $1. Questions?

And if you think it's all that good, why are you still here. Nobody's stopping you from flying INTO Cuba. Have a nice trip, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

I've been to Cuba. No one stopped me from sailing there either.

Nor would they, you're not a Cuban. However, if you tried to take a Cuban home to the US with you, things would go very differently, and difficultly for you.

They would if I tried to spirit the Swedish Bikini Team out of the country too...
I like how the Libertarian platform calls for open borders for everyone except credible national threats, but absolutely zero people who call themselves Libertarians want open borders with Mexico. But that's beside the point...

Cuba has more doctors per capita than most anywhere. If Cuba wants to send a doctors, nurses, techs, and supplies into the Ebola breach, then "Thank You Cuba".

[Seth]

and agents of The United Fruit Company (including Juan Batista) routinely executed dissidents and buried them in banana patches all over Latin America.

Which excuses Che how, exactly?

The same pre-emptive excuse you use for "hypothesising" about when you and your tea-tard mates overthrow the evil Obama Marxist Empire.

You need to learn to distinguish between a theoretical argument and historical facts.

You need to learn how to not be hypocritical.

Are you under the mistaken impression that I approve of what Batista did?

[Seth]

Cuba has more doctors per capita than most anywhere. If Cuba wants to send a doctors, nurses, techs, and supplies into the Ebola breach, then "Thank You Cuba".

Good for them. Of course "doctor" has a radically different meaning in Cuba than it does in the United States.

However, a legion of incompetent Marxists sent to the hot zone hardly excuses the Marxist/communist tyranny of Cuba.

[Hermit]

Marxists are incompetent.
Cuban doctors are Marxists.
Insert obvious conclusion here.

I see how this works. Once again you are at your Lolbertardian best, Seth.

[pErvinalia]

Which excuses Che how, exactly?

The same pre-emptive excuse you use for "hypothesising" about when you and your tea-tard mates overthrow the evil Obama Marxist Empire.

You need to learn to distinguish between a theoretical argument and historical facts.

You need to learn how to not be hypocritical.

Are you under the mistaken impression that I approve of what Batista did?

No. You disapprove of what Che did, despite supporting the exact same concept when it comes to an alleged tyrannical US government.

[JimC]

One can detest Batista and his ilk, agree that change (and probably violent change) was the only way forward, disapprove of aspects of the communist regime (particularly its violent and authoritarian nature at times), while still seeing aspects of current cuban society such as its healthcare system as a vast improvement over other third world countries.

One does not have to polarise into either a virulent opponent or a cheering fan boy...

[pErvinalia]

In Sethworld one has to...

[cronus]

One can detest Batista and his ilk, agree that change (and probably violent change) was the only way forward, disapprove of aspects of the communist regime (particularly its violent and authoritarian nature at times), while still seeing aspects of current cuban society such as its healthcare system as a vast improvement over other third world countries.

One does not have to polarise into either a virulent opponent or a cheering fan boy...

Health in Cuba is a work in progress. As the post Castro Cuba becomes more 'commercial' as a economy the chances are its healthcare will slide into emulating the mistakes of the American dream. Whilst there may appear to have been social progress in the past with Cuba it was the work of a very small clique rather than the grassroots of bottom up society. When the clique goes bad, motivated by self-interest, then there will be extraordinary economic changes. As we've seen with China not all change is good and people can be left behind, especially the most vulnerable - the poor.

[pErvinalia]

China is the 'no true Scotsman' of the "communist" world. All the deaths are the fault of socialism, and the booming economy is the work of capitalism. How simple it must be to live in such a black and white world. Libertarians : Marxists. No wonder libertarianism attracts simple people.

[Seth]

Marxists are incompetent.
Cuban doctors are Marxists.
Insert obvious conclusion here.

I see how this works. Once again you are at your Lolbertardian best, Seth.

So why is it that Cuban "doctors" are not permitted to practice medicine in the US without going back to medical school?

[Seth]

Are you under the mistaken impression that I approve of what Batista did?

No. You disapprove of what Che did, despite supporting the exact same concept when it comes to an alleged tyrannical US government.

In what way did I support the "exact same concept?" And which "exact same concept" are you referring to?

Che delighted in personally executing people he didn't like, whether or not they were any sort of threat to Communism. He was a barbaric thug and conscienceless serial killer who used the excuse of counterrevolutionary opposition to the despotic tyranny of Communism as a shallow excuse to torture and kill innocent people.

I support none of that.