Cutting off the Ebola zone would be a mistake

Post Reply
User avatar
cronus
Black Market Analyst
Posts: 18122
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:09 pm
About me: Illis quos amo deserviam
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

Cutting off the Ebola zone would be a mistake

Post by cronus » Sat Oct 25, 2014 4:42 am

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2 ... EseCCLF81I

Cutting off the Ebola zone would be a mistake

Travel bans aren’t the answer: distancing ourselves from countries and people afflicted with Ebola could prove tragic for the world

The searchers of the town,
Suspecting that we both were in a house
Where the infectious pestilence did reign,
Seal'd up the doors, and would not let us forth;
So that my speed to Mantua there was stay'd.

SO SAYS Friar John in Romeo and Juliet, explaining his failure to deliver a message revealing Juliet's scheme to evade an unwanted marriage.

Shakespeare wrote those lines long after the Black Death first swept across Europe. But its frequent recurrences meant his audience knew exactly what John was referring to: quarantine, for centuries the only effective way to slow the pestilence's advance.

Today, we are schooled in the germ theory of infectious diseases and tooled up with medical systems designed to tackle them. But what if those systems are overwhelmed, as seems probable in some of the countries currently struggling with Ebola? The global threat, small at present, may swiftly escalate, especially if the disease gains a foothold elsewhere in the developing world.

What worked in the Middle Ages still works today, although now we call it "social distancing": reducing contact with those who may be afflicted with intractable diseases. Some, particularly in the US, have called for a ban on travel from the affected countries.

Such a ban probably couldn't be enforced, but the prospect of one may prompt exactly those people needed to keep things running to flee (see "Why closing borders won't stop Ebola's rampage"). Given the UN's struggle to collect the $1 billion it says it needs to contain Ebola now, there is no realistic prospect of it mustering the people, equipment or transport needed to maintain vital services in that event. In part, this reflects under-preparedness: we need the capacity to respond more robustly to potential pandemics than we have done so far (see "Global agency needed for battling infectious diseases").

(continued, call themselves scientists? why don't we have Ebola parties as well? whilst allowing free movement of a 70% mortality plague...) :nono:
What will the world be like after its ruler is removed?

User avatar
Hermit
Posts: 25806
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:44 am
About me: Cantankerous grump
Location: Ignore lithpt
Contact:

Re: Cutting off the Ebola zone would be a mistake

Post by Hermit » Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:04 am

Such a ban probably couldn't be enforced, but the prospect of one may prompt exactly those people needed to keep things running to flee
As if not quarantining would slow down the spread of the virus. Though I'm sure that there is a myriad of starcrossed lovers whose tragic deaths will be avoided if only we let the thousands of Friar John type characters travel unhindered.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops. - Stephen J. Gould

User avatar
pErvinalia
On the good stuff
Posts: 60849
Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:08 pm
About me: Spelling 'were' 'where'
Location: dystopia
Contact:

Re: Cutting off the Ebola zone would be a mistake

Post by pErvinalia » Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:40 am

That article doesn't make sense. Pretty much the same as every argument I've see in favour of not imposing some sort of travel restrictions.
Sent from my penis using wankertalk.
"The Western world is fucking awesome because of mostly white men" - DaveDodo007.
"Socialized medicine is just exactly as morally defensible as gassing and cooking Jews" - Seth. Yes, he really did say that..
"Seth you are a boon to this community" - Cunt.
"I am seriously thinking of going on a spree killing" - Svartalf.

User avatar
JimC
The sentimental bloke
Posts: 74223
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:58 am
About me: To be serious about gin requires years of dedicated research.
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Contact:

Re: Cutting off the Ebola zone would be a mistake

Post by JimC » Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:04 am

The only answer is shooting suspicious strangers when you first see them, then burning their bodies...
Nurse, where the fuck's my cardigan?
And my gin!

User avatar
cronus
Black Market Analyst
Posts: 18122
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:09 pm
About me: Illis quos amo deserviam
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

Re: Cutting off the Ebola zone would be a mistake

Post by cronus » Sat Oct 25, 2014 7:09 am

They are talking on behalf of Big Business. That is what they do when nested that far into the system. Don't want panic that'll shut the global economy down. It is easy to reduce the death toll. Keep travel down. Only essential stuff like food etc needs to be moved around. Yes, the system will collapse and people will have less to do for a year or two. Sorry, the way they are trying is going to lead to a far greater body count and a worse system collapse in a years time. Denial. Not good when the ships sinking under you. :nono:
What will the world be like after its ruler is removed?

User avatar
mistermack
Posts: 15093
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:57 am
About me: Never rong.
Contact:

Re: Cutting off the Ebola zone would be a mistake

Post by mistermack » Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:26 pm

when the first Ebola patient in Nigeria went to hospital, he was diagnosed with Ebola, but wanted to leave.
The doctor there refused to let him leave. Which is a travel ban.
The doctor ended up dying from Ebola, but the outbreak was halted. Very much due to his travel ban. He's a hero in Nigeria, god knows how many lives he saved.

A travel ban WOULD work, it would keep the numbers low enough, that the outbreaks could be handled.

They WILL bring in a travel ban, there's no doubt about it. If the outbreak keep growing, and it shows no sign of shrinking at present.

So the policy is going to be, don't bring in a travel ban now, when it will work.
Bring it in later, when it probably won't.
While there is a market for shit, there will be assholes to supply it.

User avatar
cronus
Black Market Analyst
Posts: 18122
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:09 pm
About me: Illis quos amo deserviam
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

Re: Cutting off the Ebola zone would be a mistake

Post by cronus » Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:28 pm

mistermack wrote:when the first Ebola patient in Nigeria went to hospital, he was diagnosed with Ebola, but wanted to leave.
The doctor there refused to let him leave. Which is a travel ban.
The doctor ended up dying from Ebola, but the outbreak was halted. Very much due to his travel ban. He's a hero in Nigeria, god knows how many lives he saved.

A travel ban WOULD work, it would keep the numbers low enough, that the outbreaks could be handled.

They WILL bring in a travel ban, there's no doubt about it. If the outbreak keep growing, and it shows no sign of shrinking at present.

So the policy is going to be, don't bring in a travel ban now, when it will work.
Bring it in later, when it probably won't.
The complacency of the powerful will be the death of us all. :nono:
What will the world be like after its ruler is removed?

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 11 guests