Ebola is now running wild in America

[rainbow]

A firewall of two hundred miles around anywhere in Africa where the disease occurs - no aircraft travel except for medical and security purposes. A rigorously enforced curfew. No travel between major population centres. Special permits for essential economic movements and rural mobility curtailed unless it is seen as essential by security forces who have a option of lethal remits. A six month regime of fear in the region to prevent worldwide chaos. Necessary evils.

...and 200 miles around Dallas too?

I'm starting to see merit in your idea. "Houston, we have a problem"

[mistermack]

People who are taking Ebola lightly are ignoring the fact that HIV is now global.

It started with one African shagging a chimpanzee he had just shot. I think it's in every country on Earth now.
Of course, HIV is more insidious. It's harder to detect and you have it for life, not a few weeks.
But it's less infectious by an order of magnitude.

If this Ebola virus mutates to a less lethal but more infectious form, it could end up all around the world, just like HIV, and would end up killing a lot more people, because of the numbers invoved.

And the more people who are infected, the more likely it is to produce a more successful mutation.
It's a numbers game.

[Tero]

Republicans blame Obama of course! Ebola patients should be allowed to board plane, but then dropped over ocean:

The idea of a ban gained currency this past week after the nation’s first case was diagnosed in Dallas. Proponents have argued that it would help ensure public safety.

[mistermack]

Mentioning HIV made me have a look at how it's going. Remember the panic when it first came out? The ''Don't die of ignorance'' campaign. It's amazing what a few drugs have done to the public concern over it. You hardly hear a mention of it now. ( even though it's now pretty rampant ).

Here are a few facts about HIV.

As of 2009, it is estimated that there are 33.3 million people worldwide infected with HIV.[4]

Doesn't that tell you all you need to know? Nobody has bothered to update that wiki statistic in the last five years. It's probably more like 60 million now, but I suspect an awful lot more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_ ... lence_rate

According to the figures on that page, HIV in the US is at 0.6% in adults.
Or 1,148,200 people. That's the official 2011 estimate.
But I found this article on a study done on LA women. It's not about HIV, it's about how douching and lubricants can cause bacterial infections. But what was REALLY interesting, was that out of this random sample of LA women, 25% were HIV positive.
I find that stunning. They hardly think it's worth a mention.

http://news.health.com/2013/03/08/petro ... -in-study/

So if you think modern practices in countries like the USA will protect us all from Ebola, you should think again.

[JimC]

We need a flood!

Of biblical proportions!

[laklak]

We are certainly ripe for an extinction-event global pandemic. Think of all those third world people living in shit, Ebola/Marburg/Hanta/Bubonic is gonna rip through all those shanties like hot peppered shit through a Crohn's ridden goose. Those of us lucky enough to live in the more civilized world (meaning we don't live on or in a pile of shit) might ride it out. Question is how long will I need to stay up at that cabin? I think I need a few more supplies. And guns. Can't have too many guns.

[mistermack]

On the news tonight.
A Spanish nurse, who was nursing a priest in a Spanish hospital, has caught ebola.
If you were thinking that western medical practices prevented it, forget it.
Spain has a modern health service, and this patient was as high-profile as it gets, because he was known to have ebola. So ebola jumped from person to person in spite of rigorous medical practice.

It's a mystery. How the fuck did the nurse manage that?
Was it because he was a priest, and religion got the better of the nurse's better judgement?
Or is Ebola REALLY that infectious?

If it is, I think the human race is in the shit.

[rainbow]

On the news tonight.
A Spanish nurse, who was nursing a priest in a Spanish hospital, has caught ebola.
If you were thinking that western medical practices prevented it, forget it.
Spain has a modern health service, and this patient was as high-profile as it gets, because he was known to have ebola. So ebola jumped from person to person in spite of rigorous medical practice.

It's a mystery. How the fuck did the nurse manage that?
Was it because he was a priest, and religion got the better of the nurse's better judgement?
Or is Ebola REALLY that infectious?

If it is, I think the human race is in the shit.

Ban all flights from Europe!

[mistermack]

On the news tonight.
A Spanish nurse, who was nursing a priest in a Spanish hospital, has caught ebola.
If you were thinking that western medical practices prevented it, forget it.
Spain has a modern health service, and this patient was as high-profile as it gets, because he was known to have ebola. So ebola jumped from person to person in spite of rigorous medical practice.

It's a mystery. How the fuck did the nurse manage that?
Was it because he was a priest, and religion got the better of the nurse's better judgement?
Or is Ebola REALLY that infectious?

If it is, I think the human race is in the shit.

Ban all flights from Europe!

Well you could.
In my earlier post, I said it would make sense to ban flights from Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea.
Nigeria has had a handful of cases, I didn't suggest banning flights from there, unless the numbers get alarming.
One case in Spain wouldn't merit a ban, unless that gets out of hand.
But I noticed that shares in Airlines like BA and others fell on the news, just of one case in Spain.
So the markets obviously think that the people have more sense than the politicians.

[Tero]

Puzzling how many children get ebola. Some from their parents. But many apparently from dogs. Who dig up ebola bodies.

[mistermack]

Puzzling how many children get ebola. Some from their parents. But many apparently from dogs. Who dig up ebola bodies.

I was wondering how long the ebola virus can live outside of a living human. There doesn't seem to be much info on stuff like that. All I've read is that it lives longer on shiny surfaces, like metal and wood and plastic, and doesn't like warm dry conditions.

Looking at the way that the nursing staff were hosing each other down didn't fill me with confidence.
It's easy to get a splash off a hose jet. It just seemed a stupid way to do it. They are definitely doing it wrong, in some way, in Africa, for so many health personnel to get it.
And the one nurse in Spain.

Spraying water around, even if it's got chemicals in it, looks dodgy to me. I would try hot-air drying of used protective gear first, before it got cleaned.

[mistermack]

Puzzling how many children get ebola. Some from their parents. But many apparently from dogs. Who dig up ebola bodies.

Another thing I read about ebola, was that dogs can apparently have the virus, without getting sick.
In humans, they keep saying that you're not infectious, if you aren't sick, so whether that's the same for dogs or not, I wouldn't know.
Another VERY interesting fact is that a man who has had ebola can pass it on in his sperm, even if he has been cured of the disease. For at least seven weeks after he has been cured of the illness.

They don't tell you that on the news.

[laklak]

There's a lot of shit they don't tell you.

[Tero]

According to Time, all bodies in Monrovia are cremated. But rural areas have poor burying their own. We need to send them some gasoline.

[cronus]

It is necessary. Almost as if a plan is being carried out. We have insurmountable issues of peak capacity in agriculture through climate change, peak utilization of several critical resources not least oil. It is essential that population is carried downwards far more swiftly than a natural demographic is going to achieve. Hey presto, Ebola.