Rolf 'other' Harris named and shamed.

[cronus]

Actions might help...suppressing language might backfire and suppress debate?

[cronus]

Nice false dichotomy.

Except that it represents the facts on the ground. Australia has no genuine plan to change conditions for abbo kids, but they frown on using the word and make it officially racist. (according to you).

I see that as massive hypocrisy.

Recent article from Spectator worth injecting into the discussion at this point. Albeit it about mental health prejudice very much a universal slant regarding 'PC language vs real action' debate.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/nick-cohen ... -equality/

[pErvinalia]

Nice false dichotomy.

Except that it represents the facts on the ground. Australia has no genuine plan to change conditions for abbo kids, but they frown on using the word and make it officially racist. (according to you).

I see that as massive hypocrisy.

I see you as a massive imbecile. The false dichotomy was your implication that it's either one or the other. Fix the conditions on the ground, or stop calling them racist names. So, yes, you are an imbecile.

[MrJonno]

If someone tells me that they find something offensive and I wasn't intending to be offensive I won't use that world again

For example I was working with some Turkish colleagues and created a data folder called Turk. Apparently that's a racial slur used since WW1. I didnt intend to be offensive so I won't do it again.

Of course if intend to be offensive I will use any words I want to

[pErvinalia]

Yep. That's why MM is effectively a racist. He chooses to use a racist word when there are alternatives available.

[cronus]

Yep. That's why MM is effectively a racist. He chooses to use a racist word when there are alternatives available.

Words don't matter. No one is a racist through words alone. They are vibrations in the air. It is context that makes a racists. Don't see the context in words alone, here.

[pErvinalia]

Bollocks. You don't actually believe that. (the thing about words not mattering, and only being vibrations in the air).

[cronus]

Bollocks. You don't actually believe that.

Words are meaningless sound alone. In a drinking session folks forget what they called each other the day before if they are friends. Nihilism is king.

[mistermack]

I see you as a massive imbecile. The false dichotomy was your implication that it's either one or the other. Fix the conditions on the ground, or stop calling them racist names. So, yes, you are an imbecile.

What's imbecilic, is your claim that I implied that it was one thing or the other.
I said that Australia is doing one pathetically insignificant thing, by going all politically correct, and not saying abbos, while TREATING them exactly like ''abbos''.

Why don't you stop making these imbecilic statements, and go and look up false dichotomy?
Or point out where I proposed one?

As far as abbos being racist is concerned, I don't take your word for it. And I don't see any justification for it, apart from this new political correctness rule, that says that no ethnic group who's skin isn't white can have a nickname.
If abbos is now racist, it's only because politically correct people said so. You twats can go fuck yourselves.

[MrJonno]

I really don't understand why anyone would want to be accidentally offensive to someone, deliberately offensive no problems I do that all the time some people need to be offended.

If I say christianity is a sadomasochistic death cult and a christian isnt offended by that then I'm not trying hard enough, however if I say the Jap's make good cars and the Japanese find that offensive (as apparently Jap is an offensive term) I don't really care why someone finds that offensive I will change my language not because I have too but because its the polite thing to do.

What the correct term to use when describing the height adult male that is 3 foot 5, dwarf, midget, small person, some medical condition I don't know?, if they want to let me know I will use it.

That's all political correctness is, an aid to not accidentally insulting someone

[Hermit]

What the correct term to use when describing the height adult male that is 3 foot 5, dwarf, midget, small person, some medical condition I don't know?

None of the above. It's "vertically challenged".

[mistermack]

I really don't understand why anyone would want to be accidentally offensive to someone, deliberately offensive no problems I do that all the time some people need to be offended.

When people CHOOSE to be offended by a word, that was previously not offensive, as far as I'm concerned, that's their problem.
A few years ago, the polite word for a homosexual person was homosexual. Then people deliberately launched the word gay. It won't be long, before homosexual will be claimed to be offensive.
People already give you a funny look, if you say it, instead of gay. Funny thing is, kids are starting to use gay as a general insult. How long will it be, before someone thinks up a new substitute, and calling someone gay becomes a recognised insult?

Then of course, you get black people in the US calling each other nigger. That's ok, but white people can't. So it's not a racist word, it's a racist combination, of the word, and who says it.

[Tero]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJleJbn9 ... re=youtube[/youtube]

[pErvinalia]

Bollocks. You don't actually believe that.

Words are meaningless sound alone. In a drinking session folks forget what they called each other the day before if they are friends. Nihilism is king.

You are essentially saying there is no such thing as the psychological life. That is nonsense. Our whole lives revolve around the psychological. That's why PTSD is a real thing and can be triggered by words. Amongst the millions of other psychological phenomenon that are real things.

[pErvinalia]

I see you as a massive imbecile. The false dichotomy was your implication that it's either one or the other. Fix the conditions on the ground, or stop calling them racist names. So, yes, you are an imbecile.

What's imbecilic, is your claim that I implied that it was one thing or the other.
I said that Australia is doing one pathetically insignificant thing, by going all politically correct, and not saying abbos, while TREATING them exactly like ''abbos''.

Why don't you stop making these imbecilic statements, and go and look up false dichotomy?
Or point out where I proposed one?

It was implicit in this: "Which is actually worse, people saying abbo, or children being brought up in squalid conditions, with very little chance of advancement?"

That's a false dichotomy as it implies that there is even a difference between the two. They are part of the exact same problem and it's possible to treat both at the same time or none at the same time. Hence why your statement that you believe people pick the former out of guilt of not doing the latter is ridiculous.

As far as abbos being racist is concerned, I don't take your word for it. And I don't see any justification for it, apart from this new political correctness rule, that says that no ethnic group who's skin isn't white can have a nickname.
If abbos is now racist, it's only because politically correct people said so. You twats can go fuck yourselves.

It's because Aboriginals say so. How many aboriginals do you know?? I'm pretty sure you won't have to take your socks off to count them. You won't even have to pull your head out of your arse. Because the answer is zero.