Excellent.Today, Obama’s eagerness to expand executive authority beyond Bush-era levels met with overwhelming rejection at the hands of a unanimous Supreme Court. "We conclude that the President lacked the power to make the recess appointments here at issue," declared Justice Breyer. Obama’s “recess” appointments to the National Labor Relations Board are therefore invalid and unconstitutional.
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Supreme Court Strikes Down Obama's Unconstitutional Executive Overreach 9–0
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Isn't that the same bunch who ruled that holding prayers before a council meeting wasn't religious?
How the fuck do these morons get on the supreme court ?
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Nice to see our constitutional checks and balances working for once. So what's the impact on all the decisions Obama's bogus appointees made?Gallstones wrote:Supreme Court Strikes Down Obama's Unconstitutional Executive Overreach 9–0
Excellent.Today, Obama’s eagerness to expand executive authority beyond Bush-era levels met with overwhelming rejection at the hands of a unanimous Supreme Court. "We conclude that the President lacked the power to make the recess appointments here at issue," declared Justice Breyer. Obama’s “recess” appointments to the National Labor Relations Board are therefore invalid and unconstitutional.
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I don't really understand the background to this, but these pro forma sessions sound an awful lot like a technicality used to prevent the president having powers he would ordinarily have. If so, why is it a good thing that the supreme court are favouring the letter of the law over the spirit of it?
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Actually the President would not normally have these powers; if you read the constitution directly, the President can only make recess appointments between the annual sessions of the Senate. It was only with Bush, and then even more with Obama, that the President started making unconstitutional recess appointments in the middle of sessions to avoid having to get the constitutionally required "advice and consent" of the Senate.PsychoSerenity wrote:I don't really understand the background to this, but these pro forma sessions sound an awful lot like a technicality used to prevent the president having powers he would ordinarily have. If so, why is it a good thing that the supreme court are favouring the letter of the law over the spirit of it?
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The President nominates them and the Senate confirms or rejects.mistermack wrote:Isn't that the same bunch who ruled that holding prayers before a council meeting wasn't religious?
How the fuck do these morons get on the supreme court ?
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So anyone can be a supreme court judge then? Actually, that wouldn't surprise me.Gallstones wrote:The President nominates them and the Senate confirms or rejects.mistermack wrote:Isn't that the same bunch who ruled that holding prayers before a council meeting wasn't religious?
How the fuck do these morons get on the supreme court ?
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SCOTUS! It's 1946 calling!
'Let's just draw the line at the GWBush-levels of executive overreach...'
Way to go SCOTUS, that's nippin' it in the bud!
Way to go SCOTUS, that's nippin' it in the bud!

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Geezus you're fucking stupid.mistermack wrote:So anyone can be a supreme court judge then? Actually, that wouldn't surprise me.Gallstones wrote:The President nominates them and the Senate confirms or rejects.mistermack wrote:Isn't that the same bunch who ruled that holding prayers before a council meeting wasn't religious?
How the fuck do these morons get on the supreme court ?
America dumbs down everything, so why make an exception of the law?
But here’s the thing about rights. They’re not actually supposed to be voted on. That’s why they’re called rights. ~Rachel Maddow August 2010
The Second Amendment forms a fourth branch of government (an armed citizenry) in case the government goes mad. ~Larry Nutter
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So then why the need for the pro forma sessions? And why did the supreme court rule it as unconstitutional specifically because of the pro forma sessions, but not otherwise? And I don't really get how the American government works, but if the senate can oppose appointments to office during a full session and have these mini fake sessions to oppose appointments the rest of the time, how else can appointments be made? The article makes it sounds like there would be vacancies in government offices simply left unfilled. Is that right? If so how does the government work?Warren Dew wrote:Actually the President would not normally have these powers; if you read the constitution directly, the President can only make recess appointments between the annual sessions of the Senate. It was only with Bush, and then even more with Obama, that the President started making unconstitutional recess appointments in the middle of sessions to avoid having to get the constitutionally required "advice and consent" of the Senate.PsychoSerenity wrote:I don't really understand the background to this, but these pro forma sessions sound an awful lot like a technicality used to prevent the president having powers he would ordinarily have. If so, why is it a good thing that the supreme court are favouring the letter of the law over the spirit of it?
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Not by mid-level political appointees, if that's what you mean.... The US government usually has a deep bench of bureaucrats that handle 99% of the functioning of the State.
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You're fucking ugly.Gallstones wrote:Geezus you're fucking stupid.mistermack wrote:So anyone can be a supreme court judge then? Actually, that wouldn't surprise me.Gallstones wrote:The President nominates them and the Senate confirms or rejects.mistermack wrote:Isn't that the same bunch who ruled that holding prayers before a council meeting wasn't religious?
How the fuck do these morons get on the supreme court ?
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At least someone in DC is still omnipotent!
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I have evidence, you don't.mistermack wrote:You're fucking ugly.Gallstones wrote:Geezus you're fucking stupid.mistermack wrote:So anyone can be a supreme court judge then? Actually, that wouldn't surprise me.Gallstones wrote:The President nominates them and the Senate confirms or rejects.mistermack wrote:Isn't that the same bunch who ruled that holding prayers before a council meeting wasn't religious?
How the fuck do these morons get on the supreme court ?
America dumbs down everything, so why make an exception of the law?
But here’s the thing about rights. They’re not actually supposed to be voted on. That’s why they’re called rights. ~Rachel Maddow August 2010
The Second Amendment forms a fourth branch of government (an armed citizenry) in case the government goes mad. ~Larry Nutter
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The President can appoint someone less radical that the Senate will actually approve. That's how the system is supposed to work, and how it did work through the 1980s and maybe 1990s.PsychoSerenity wrote:And I don't really get how the American government works, but if the senate can oppose appointments to office during a full session and have these mini fake sessions to oppose appointments the rest of the time, how else can appointments be made?
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