Another shot at the case against gnus

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Re: Another shot at the case against legal firearm owners

Post by Hermit » Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:34 am

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Hermit wrote:What do you do when a 95 year old man with a urinary tract infection refuses to go to hospital? You shoot him of course. With a shotgun. Five times. That's gun culture for you. Link
Those were--all hail the almighty saviors--police.
What has that got to do with legal possession by law abiding citizens?
It's got to do with an absurd gun culture in all sections of US society.
Exactly. Many US citizens don't see the absurdity of needing to carry a firearm for protection much the same way as abattoir workers cease to notice the stench around them after a while of working there.
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Re: Another shot at the case against gnus

Post by JimC » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:39 am

Here we go again, another mass shooting with semi-automatic weapons, this time in Florida...

http://www.theage.com.au/world/mass-sho ... zsl9e.html
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Re: Another shot at the case against gnus

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JimC wrote:Here we go again, another mass shooting with semi-automatic weapons, this time in Florida...

http://www.theage.com.au/world/mass-sho ... zsl9e.html
Waiting for some gumnut to point out that the official definition of "mass shooting" is four or more deaths in a single incident. You are right, gun culture enablers, but so what?
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Re: Another shot at the case against gnus

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JimC wrote:Here we go again, another mass shooting with semi-automatic weapons, this time in Florida...

http://www.theage.com.au/world/mass-sho ... zsl9e.html
Likely a gang shooting, and nobody else had a gun to shoot back with. What a shame.
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Re: Another shot at the case against legal firearm owners

Post by Gallstones » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:36 pm

Hermit wrote:
JimC wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Hermit wrote:What do you do when a 95 year old man with a urinary tract infection refuses to go to hospital? You shoot him of course. With a shotgun. Five times. That's gun culture for you. Link
Those were--all hail the almighty saviors--police.
What has that got to do with legal possession by law abiding citizens?
It's got to do with an absurd gun culture in all sections of US society.
Exactly. Many US citizens don't see the absurdity of needing to carry a firearm for protection much the same way as abattoir workers cease to notice the stench around them after a while of working there.
Nope, police brutality can not be correlated with firearm ownership.
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Post by Gallstones » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:39 pm

Google Search Data Shows AR-15 Searches Far More Popular Than Searches For Moms Demand Action
...anyone who has ever worked in marketing can tell you one of the truest measures of where the public’s interests lie is to look at historical search engine data.

Google Trends is a great tool that lets you analyze the popularity of search terms of a period of time.
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Google Trends shows that the public interest in AR-15 rifles dwarfs interest in “gun control” and “universal background checks” (which didn’t even register when compared to the other terms).
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The Internet using public just isn’t interested in information regarding gun control. They are far more interested in AR-15′s and owning them.
Graphs, AKA pictures, at the link.
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Re: Another shot at the case against legal firearm owners

Post by Hermit » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:10 pm

Gallstones wrote:
Hermit wrote:
JimC wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Hermit wrote:What do you do when a 95 year old man with a urinary tract infection refuses to go to hospital? You shoot him of course. With a shotgun. Five times. That's gun culture for you. Link
Those were--all hail the almighty saviors--police.
What has that got to do with legal possession by law abiding citizens?
It's got to do with an absurd gun culture in all sections of US society.
Exactly. Many US citizens don't see the absurdity of needing to carry a firearm for protection much the same way as abattoir workers cease to notice the stench around them after a while of working there.
Nope, police brutality can not be correlated with firearm ownership.
I'm not talking about gun ownership. There's nothing wrong with it. How many more times need I mention gun culture before you realise what I'm objecting to?
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Re: Another shot at the case against legal firearm owners

Post by Gallstones » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:25 pm

Hermit wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Hermit wrote:Exactly. Many US citizens don't see the absurdity of needing to carry a firearm for protection much the same way as abattoir workers cease to notice the stench around them after a while of working there.
Nope, police brutality can not be correlated with firearm ownership.
I'm not talking about gun ownership. There's nothing wrong with it. How many more times need I mention gun culture before you realise what I'm objecting to?
"Gun culture" WTF is that?
Is it like the "rape culture"?
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Re: Another shot at the case against gnus

Post by Gallstones » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:27 pm

Another prohibitionist spokesperson of high moral character exemplifying the prohibitionist culture.
He's one of yours.

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Re: Another shot at the case against legal firearm owners

Post by piscator » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:30 pm

Gallstones wrote:
Hermit wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Hermit wrote:Exactly. Many US citizens don't see the absurdity of needing to carry a firearm for protection much the same way as abattoir workers cease to notice the stench around them after a while of working there.
Nope, police brutality can not be correlated with firearm ownership.
I'm not talking about gun ownership. There's nothing wrong with it. How many more times need I mention gun culture before you realise what I'm objecting to?
"Gun culture" WTF is that?
Is it like the "rape culture"?
More like "the dependent class", if that doesn't put too fine an edge on it. :{D

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Re: Another shot at the case against legal firearm owners

Post by Hermit » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:44 pm

Gallstones wrote:"Gun culture" WTF is that?
I told you already. It's the absurdity of feeling the need to carry a firearm for protection. We don't have that in Australia, and there are other civilised countries that don't feel that need either.
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Re: Another shot at the case against legal firearm owners

Post by Seth » Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:24 pm

Hermit wrote:
Gallstones wrote:"Gun culture" WTF is that?
I told you already. It's the absurdity of feeling the need to carry a firearm for protection. We don't have that in Australia, and there are other civilised countries that don't feel that need either.
We can't help it if all you people are idiots with IQs in the single digits.
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Post by piscator » Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:54 pm

I know a guy who's unit all chipped in to get him an engraved Wilson .45 when they left Afghanistan. He never carries it, or any other gun.
I know a fat little retired Mormon cop who carries all the time. You just never know when someone from the past could be nursing a hardon...

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Post by Gallstones » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:45 pm

Missouri Training, Arming Teachers 'Like Air Marshals on Planes'
Under laws passed by the Missouri legislature during the last session, numerous school districts in the state are enrolling teachers to be trained in the defensive use of a Glock 19 semi-automatic pistol in the classroom.

According to Fox News, districts are availing themselves of Shield Solutions training near the Ozarks town of West Plains. These districts pay $17,500 to get "40 hours of training on how to use a Glock 19 semi-automatic pistol for two staffers."

The goal is to have two armed teachers per participating school. However, the identities of those armed teachers will be known only by "school district administrators and local law enforcement." Protecting the identities of those who will be armed models how the air marshal program has operated since 9/11.
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Re: Another shot at the case against gnus

Post by Gallstones » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:48 pm

piscator wrote:I know a guy who's unit all chipped in to get him an engraved Wilson .45 when they left Afghanistan. He never carries it, or any other gun.
I know a fat little retired Mormon cop who carries all the time. You just never know when someone from the past could be nursing a hardon...
If I was gifted with a beautiful engraved pistol, I wouldn't carry it either. One locks such an item away to secure and protect it. One uses something more utilitarian for carry.
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