An Open Letter to White Privilege

[pErvinalia]

Blacks are mentally inferior over the aggregate, plain and simple.

People who believe this racist claptrap are inferior, plain and simple.

It's basic science, Rainbow, you can't deny the truth. Here, I'll let this scientist explain it to you:

Yeah, i'd like to see the "science" behind his claim. There's so many potential problems with his claims.

[Mr.Samsa]

Yeah, i'd like to see the "science" behind his claim. There's so many potential problems with his claims.

I'll bet you it involves the shitty work of Jensen, Rushton, or "The Bell Curve". There's obviously no real science behind what he's saying.

[Drewish]

SO you want evidence showing a correlation between being black and having a lower IQ? I'm just verifying that this would indeed meet your standards of evidence before wasting my time.

[rainbow]

SO you want evidence showing a correlation between being black and having a lower IQ? I'm just verifying that this would indeed meet your standards of evidence before wasting my time.

Nobody cares if you want to make an arse of yourself.

[Hermit]

SO you want evidence showing a correlation between being black and having a lower IQ? I'm just verifying that this would indeed meet your standards of evidence before wasting my time.

The evidence required is of the sort that prove lower IQ among African Americans being due to genetic rather than social influences. Tyrannical attempted to do that in the past. He waffled on about African Americans living in the same environment that Anglo-Saxon Americans live, and yet were an average less intelligent. His argument amounted to no more than assertion backed up by nothing better than vague finger pointing.

[Drewish]

SO you want evidence showing a correlation between being black and having a lower IQ? I'm just verifying that this would indeed meet your standards of evidence before wasting my time.

Nobody cares if you want to make an arse of yourself.

Then I won't waste my time. Continue believing in your fantasy of human equality to validate your deeply held moral and ethical values. You are no different from the religious cowards who refuse to face their own mortality. The truth bows to no preconceptions, and when your response to claims you do not like is not, "Where's your evidence?" but, "I don't care what your evidence is you twat!" then there is no hope for honest discussion. At least you had the honesty to admit as much though, and I thank you for that at least.

SO you want evidence showing a correlation between being black and having a lower IQ? I'm just verifying that this would indeed meet your standards of evidence before wasting my time.

The evidence required is of the sort that prove lower IQ among African Americans being due to genetic rather than social influences. Tyrannical attempted to do that in the past. He waffled on about African Americans living in the same environment that Anglo-Saxon Americans live, and yet were an average less intelligent. His argument amounted to no more than assertion backed up by nothing better than vague finger pointing.

I was not aware of this discussion. Do you have a link perhaps? And as a basis, for defining the place of disagreement, it was not that he was unable to show a clear difference in IQ test scores and other surrogate measurements of intelligence correct? Was the disagreement about whether such measurements were reliable markers for intelligence, or that that there was insufficient evidence to show that the cause was genetic rather than environmental?

[rainbow]

SO you want evidence showing a correlation between being black and having a lower IQ? I'm just verifying that this would indeed meet your standards of evidence before wasting my time.

Nobody cares if you want to make an arse of yourself.

Then I won't waste my time.

Good, if you want to discuss this kind of drivel, go to Stormfront where you'll be appreciated.

[Hermit]

SO you want evidence showing a correlation between being black and having a lower IQ? I'm just verifying that this would indeed meet your standards of evidence before wasting my time.

The evidence required is of the sort that prove lower IQ among African Americans being due to genetic rather than social influences. Tyrannical attempted to do that in the past. He waffled on about African Americans living in the same environment that Anglo-Saxon Americans live, and yet were an average less intelligent. His argument amounted to no more than assertion backed up by nothing better than vague finger pointing.

I was not aware of this discussion. Do you have a link perhaps? And as a basis, for defining the place of disagreement, it was not that he was unable to show a clear difference in IQ test scores and other surrogate measurements of intelligence correct? Was the disagreement about whether such measurements were reliable markers for intelligence, or that that there was insufficient evidence to show that the cause was genetic rather than environmental?

Do your skills go beyond being able to recognise words and spell them?

As for searching where the discussions took place, do it yourself. You'll find several locations in this forum, and Tyrannical featured in a couple of monstrously large threads on the same subject at the defunct RDF forum. It remained online in read-only form. Maybe it still is.

[pErvinalia]

SO you want evidence showing a correlation between being black and having a lower IQ? I'm just verifying that this would indeed meet your standards of evidence before wasting my time.

You said "Blacks are mentally inferior over the aggregate, plain and simple."

Where's your evidence? You'll need a lot more than IQ data to prove this point.

[Drewish]

SO you want evidence showing a correlation between being black and having a lower IQ? I'm just verifying that this would indeed meet your standards of evidence before wasting my time.

The evidence required is of the sort that prove lower IQ among African Americans being due to genetic rather than social influences. Tyrannical attempted to do that in the past. He waffled on about African Americans living in the same environment that Anglo-Saxon Americans live, and yet were an average less intelligent. His argument amounted to no more than assertion backed up by nothing better than vague finger pointing.

I was not aware of this discussion. Do you have a link perhaps? And as a basis, for defining the place of disagreement, it was not that he was unable to show a clear difference in IQ test scores and other surrogate measurements of intelligence correct? Was the disagreement about whether such measurements were reliable markers for intelligence, or that that there was insufficient evidence to show that the cause was genetic rather than environmental?

Do your skills go beyond being able to recognise words and spell them?

As for searching where the discussions took place, do it yourself. You'll find several locations in this forum, and Tyrannical featured in a couple of monstrously large threads on the same subject at the defunct RDF forum. It remained online in read-only form. Maybe it still is.

Why thank you for the glib non-response.

SO you want evidence showing a correlation between being black and having a lower IQ? I'm just verifying that this would indeed meet your standards of evidence before wasting my time.

You said "Blacks are mentally inferior over the aggregate, plain and simple."

Where's your evidence? You'll need a lot more than IQ data to prove this point.

That's what I'm trying to establish. Who (if anyone) is actually open to discussing this topic, and if so what is their standard of evidence. If IQ test scores are not, will you accept lower literacy scores, lower incomes even in majority black nations? What about strong correlation between the percentage of a population in a city that is black and the crime rates, unemployment rates, and poverty rates?

I did make a number of assertions in the post I made and my final conclusion was based on those as premises. If you want to challenge any one of those then please tell me which one.

[Hermit]

SO you want evidence showing a correlation between being black and having a lower IQ? I'm just verifying that this would indeed meet your standards of evidence before wasting my time.

The evidence required is of the sort that prove lower IQ among African Americans being due to genetic rather than social influences. Tyrannical attempted to do that in the past. He waffled on about African Americans living in the same environment that Anglo-Saxon Americans live, and yet were an average less intelligent. His argument amounted to no more than assertion backed up by nothing better than vague finger pointing.

I was not aware of this discussion. Do you have a link perhaps? And as a basis, for defining the place of disagreement, it was not that he was unable to show a clear difference in IQ test scores and other surrogate measurements of intelligence correct? Was the disagreement about whether such measurements were reliable markers for intelligence, or that that there was insufficient evidence to show that the cause was genetic rather than environmental?

Do your skills go beyond being able to recognise words and spell them?

As for searching where the discussions took place, do it yourself. You'll find several locations in this forum, and Tyrannical featured in a couple of monstrously large threads on the same subject at the defunct RDF forum. It remained online in read-only form. Maybe it still is.

Why thank you for the glib non-response.

Which bit of "The evidence required is of the sort that prove lower IQ among African Americans being due to genetic rather than social influences." do you have trouble comprehending?


FFS; Talk about digging...

[tattuchu]

There's no such thing as race




I don't believe that, but I figured someone should throw out this argument and get it out of the way

[cronus]

I do believe folks who measure and moan about IQ do mean well. They must be well aware that hybrid vigour improves many aspects including cognitive function in offspring. So by dating blacks they would be doing their upmost to improve IQ in the next generation for both themselves and their spouses offspring.

[Drewish]

I do believe folks who measure and moan about IQ do mean well. They must be well aware that hybrid vigour improves many aspects including cognitive function in offspring. So by dating blacks they would be doing their upmost to improve IQ in the next generation for both themselves and their spouses offspring.

Oh, I'm not suggesting that one should have a racist attitude toward who they date or other such things in the name of trying to attain "superior genes." Judging the individual will always be superior to broad correlation studies, as even if something tends to be true, there will be numerous exceptions in something like genetic inheritance and race.

However if intelligence does correlate with racial background in some way, then this does have profound implications for the notion of white privilege (which is after all the topic at hand).

[cronus]

I do believe folks who measure and moan about IQ do mean well. They must be well aware that hybrid vigour improves many aspects including cognitive function in offspring. So by dating blacks they would be doing their upmost to improve IQ in the next generation for both themselves and their spouses offspring.

Oh, I'm not suggesting that one should have a racist attitude toward who they date or other such things in the name of trying to attain "superior genes." Judging the individual will always be superior to broad correlation studies, as even if something tends to be true, there will be numerous exceptions in something like genetic inheritance and race.

However if intelligence does correlate with racial background in some way, then this does have profound implications for the notion of white privilege (which is after all the topic at hand).

Yes, cultural or biological in origins the answer is still the same. Disperse the black communities into those which are doing better and mix things up. It's counter intuitive for all concerned but it should work better than anything else for improvement over a few generations.