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Re: When men were real men

Post by JimC » Fri May 30, 2014 11:32 pm

rEv as a feminist ideologue...

I like it, it's just crazy enough to be true!

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laklak wrote:In my experience I'm far better at most things then the "professionals" I've been forced to hire...
Case in point. My car, a diesel, has been losing acceleration power gradually over the past couple of months. I ruled out a few other possible causes and yesterday, I tried to find a parts place to buy a new fuel filter. As I mentioned earlier, they don't really have auto parts stores over here. Anyway, I finally caved in and took it to a shop. I started by asking the guy to change the fuel filter. Instead of just doing what I asked him, he took it for a test drive and wasted an hour trying to come up with an alternative diagnosis.

Finally, he just said that he didn't think the power loss was serious enough to mess with. I guess the look on my face crossed cultural boundaries, so he asked if I wanted him to change the filter anyway, and I said, "Yes," leaving off the "what the fuck did I ask you to do in the first place?" It solved the problem.
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Post by JimC » Sat May 31, 2014 12:58 am

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laklak wrote:In my experience I'm far better at most things then the "professionals" I've been forced to hire...
Case in point. My car, a diesel, has been losing acceleration power gradually over the past couple of months. I ruled out a few other possible causes and yesterday, I tried to find a parts place to buy a new fuel filter. As I mentioned earlier, they don't really have auto parts stores over here. Anyway, I finally caved in and took it to a shop. I started by asking the guy to change the fuel filter. Instead of just doing what I asked him, he took it for a test drive and wasted an hour trying to come up with an alternative diagnosis.

Finally, he just said that he didn't think the power loss was serious enough to mess with. I guess the look on my face crossed cultural boundaries, so he asked if I wanted him to change the filter anyway, and I said, "Yes," leaving off the "what the fuck did I ask you to do in the first place?" It solved the problem.
Ah, something I have actually managed in the past! I changed the fuel filter a few times on an old Mazda I once had. My biggest triumph was successful replacing the whole exhaust system. How the fuck I managed that, I don't know; lying on my back with the car raised a bit on the edge of the sidewalk, cursing a blue streak...
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Re: When men were real men

Post by Ayaan » Sat May 31, 2014 2:29 am

MrJonno wrote:What's the obsession with machismo ,ego and independence.

There are professionals who did these tasks regularly and are going to be a lot better at it than you. Become good at profession yourself and earn enough to pay them to do it properly
Why pay someone a fortune to fiddle with two or three screws (changing a lock) or to connect of couple of hoses (hooking up a washer) when you can do it for yourself in a few minutes and without having to wait for someone to grace your with their presence?
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Post by laklak » Sat May 31, 2014 2:35 am

I know, Ayaan. Weird, eh?
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by FBM » Sat May 31, 2014 2:39 am

Perzackly.
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Post by laklak » Sat May 31, 2014 2:49 am

Well, you can't be too careful. A screwdriver in the wrong hands could cause a lot of damage. We're all just one bad day at the office away from mass murdering our whole family, you know.
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Post by tattuchu » Sat May 31, 2014 2:50 am

I'd just like to join the chorus of fine folks here who have extolled the virtues of DIY. The only way to know something is done right is often to do it myself. No one is as anal and meticulous as I am. Also, fixing stuff is just fun :tat: Don't need a reason other than that. Though of course certain things are beyond my abilities or I don't have the tools or the means to do them myself. Sometimes you simply have to pay somebody to do something for you. That doesn't mean I have to be happy about it, of course :sulk:
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat May 31, 2014 2:55 am

Ayaan wrote:
MrJonno wrote:What's the obsession with machismo ,ego and independence.

There are professionals who did these tasks regularly and are going to be a lot better at it than you. Become good at profession yourself and earn enough to pay them to do it properly
Why pay someone a fortune to fiddle with two or three screws (changing a lock) or to connect of couple of hoses (hooking up a washer) when you can do it for yourself in a few minutes and without having to wait for someone to grace your with their presence?
But that would require admitting that we can sometimes be slightly independent of the society that surrounds us. What horrifying thought!!1!
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat May 31, 2014 2:57 am

Tatt, I often find fixing things involves a hell of a lot of swearing, a hell of a lot of creative thinking and creative tool use, and a hell of a lot of skin off. But for me it's the satisfaction of achieving something the ordinary sheep like Jonno doesn't even consider is possible.
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Post by tattuchu » Sat May 31, 2014 3:13 am

rEvolutionist wrote:Tatt, I often find fixing things involves a hell of a lot of swearing, a hell of a lot of creative thinking and creative tool use, and a hell of a lot of skin off. But for me it's the satisfaction of achieving something the ordinary sheep like Jonno doesn't even consider is possible.
The swearing is the best part :hehe:
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Re: When men were real men

Post by Ayaan » Sat May 31, 2014 3:20 am

There is a certain satisfaction that comes from being able to say "I did it!" Handing over one's credit card just doesn't give one the same feeling.
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Post by Robert_S » Sat May 31, 2014 9:24 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:Also were is this I'm a MRA crap coming from, they are beta males wh o think claiming victim status will help them get sympathy when the gynocracy has that angle sewn up. There is nothing wrong with equal (rights wise) but different through biology. There are too many on this site who are cultural Marxist and have swallowed feminist ideology. Still your loss just don't think you will get away with censorship.
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Post by MrJonno » Sat May 31, 2014 5:48 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:Tatt, I often find fixing things involves a hell of a lot of swearing, a hell of a lot of creative thinking and creative tool use, and a hell of a lot of skin off. But for me it's the satisfaction of achieving something the ordinary sheep like Jonno doesn't even consider is possible.
I've built PC's before and my ego said 'well done', then the more important parts of my brain said 'this is wasting your time and actually costing more money, go and buy one instead'

Same when me and the wife baked a cake, cost about £70 in materials and took 4 hours, these days I buy one for £3 down the supermarket.
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Re: When men were real men

Post by laklak » Sat May 31, 2014 7:09 pm

70 quid for a cake? I think you're doing something wrong there. It's "Gold Medal" flour, not "Gold Metal".

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