Alex's plan for Scotland : Mass immigration.

[ronmcd]

You give us an https link that can't hotlink, plus the image can't be displayed because it contains errors...

Really? It's appearing fine for me in firefox, logged in or otherwise.

[pErvinalia]

Except the policy to increase immigration isnt about unskilled workers, its about a points based system for particular skills. I think you are seeing what you want to see. Increased immigration is required for Scotland, in fact its an aim other parties as well as SNP have had. It's just a topical issue because of the european elections last week, and the upcoming referendum rhetoric (on both sides).

Ha, there's a big difference between what Alex says, and what he will be able to achieve.
His figure of tax take per person includes the super rich and what the big companies pay.
Two thousand extra immigrants won't be remotely in that class. He'll be very lucky to get a quarter of the figure quoted.

It's not just about the actual tax they will get from the new immigrant workers. They will get increased company taxes and other taxes that flow on from increased business activity. The only question is, will business increase investment with an influx of new workers? I don't know what the Scottish interest rate and inflation figures are and consumer and business confidence etc are. It will depend on that a lot.

But I won't discount your claim that they are lying. In my experience, politicians lie through their arses, so even if he is correct in a qualitative sense, he's probably massively overstating it in a quantitative sense.

[Tyrannical]

But if they are simply maintaining the working age population, then any low skilled workers will allow the more skilled local workers to move into the jobs that are becoming vacant with an aging population. And I'd imagine that that intake will also include many skilled immigrants too.

If you want to do that, you'd have to do it the Saudi Arabian way. Workers get three year entry visas. No family, no right to marry or stay afterwards. They are there to work, get paid, then leave.

[rainbow]

The modern reality of low skilled immigration is that they also make low wages. Low wages means low tax collections, assuming they make enough to even pay taxes. Many are likely to be on some type of official welfare or benefits. Even discounting that, the huge cost of health care and education to their often larger than natives family size. Low wage workers are a burden on the average tax payer, and importing more will only increase that burden, not lessen it.

Better to have low skilled immigrants than lard-brained racists.

[mistermack]

Better to have low skilled immigrants than lard-brained racists.

Better for who?
Not the poorest people in society. They would be better off with lard-brained racists.

When I left school, you could get a job within a few hours, that paid the rent and enough spending money to run cars, bikes, and get well pissed most nights.

Now, even graduates can't get a job, and the manual jobs don't pay enough to put a roof over your head, and certainly not enough to buy a house.
Manual working class people in the late sixties were FAR better off than they are now. Because they were in demand. Now, they are all dependent on some sort of benefit, and stand no chance whatsoever of ever owning their own home.

And that is purely down to low skilled immigration.