Communism works...yeah, NOT!

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Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 22, 2014 1:29 pm

Stalin let the team down on the beard front. :nono:
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Post by Hermit » Thu May 22, 2014 1:40 pm

Mao even more so. Mao didn't even have a mou.
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Post by Svartalf » Thu May 22, 2014 2:21 pm

Mao was no real commie, he was just an authoritarian.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 22, 2014 2:22 pm

Santa Claus?
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 22, 2014 2:22 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:Stalin let the team down on the beard front. :nono:
Doh! That should be Lenin...
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Post by Svartalf » Thu May 22, 2014 2:23 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:Santa Claus?
Actually Engels, as I just learned.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 22, 2014 2:27 pm

That was my real guess. And I'd want to get that right going by my signature... :hehe:
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Post by Hermit » Thu May 22, 2014 3:34 pm

Svartalf wrote:Mao was no real commie, he was just an authoritarian.
Oh. Not a true Scotsman then? Now tell me the difference between him and Stalin, Trotsky or any other communists who wielded political power for an extended period. I mean, apart from their facial hairstyles.
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Post by Svartalf » Thu May 22, 2014 4:37 pm

Who says Stalin was a commie? He just knew which way his bread wa buttered and took over the Soviet machine.
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Post by Hermit » Thu May 22, 2014 4:46 pm

Exactly.
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Post by Strontium Dog » Thu May 22, 2014 4:57 pm

Svartalf wrote:Mao was no real commie, he was just an authoritarian.
But how else would you extinguish individual identity without a big dollop of authority.
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Post by klr » Thu May 22, 2014 7:57 pm

I should stop using all this communist software then ...
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Post by Seth » Thu May 22, 2014 8:54 pm

JimC wrote:Small co-operatives can work, if run on a practical basis of hard work and volunteer labour, but not if they attempt to model an outdated, romantic view of a flawed political system...
Yup. The key word being "volunteer."
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Post by Seth » Thu May 22, 2014 8:56 pm

Citizensmith wrote:Yup, communism sucks. Interesting though that the US is working to prove you can fuck up capitalism too. Harder to do, sure, but this country is trying oh so hard to give the rest of the globe someone to point at and say "well there goes the neighborhood"
It's the Marxists who are fucking it up. If we could just get rid of them, capitalism would recover the economy and people would be much more free.
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Post by Seth » Thu May 22, 2014 9:00 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
JimC wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:co-operatives aren't communism, nor are they representative of communism.
True, but the one in the OP seemed to be trying to cling on to a romantic communist image from the past...
But as I said, attempts at real communistic enterprises will struggle in a capitalist framework. Particularly one so uber-capitalist as the US.
Well, yeah. Duh. That's because a capitalistic framework is diametrically opposed to the theory and practice upon which communism is based, which is that everybody owes everybody else a duty of free labor.

I don't work for anybody unless they pay me or I choose to do so for my own reasons, and if you starve because you don't want to work and insist other people owe you something, it's not my problem and the world is a better place without you.
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