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Re: Skull Cracker Walkies

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Wed May 07, 2014 3:05 am

Seth, why do you keep talking about hammer attacks? The guy pistol-whipped people - you know, with a gun - that's where his nickname comes from. :tea:
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed May 07, 2014 3:16 am

Hermit wrote:
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Hermit wrote:
Seth wrote:And you can't figure out why innocent citizens need to carry guns... Sheesh. :fp:
Michael Wheatley robbed banks and building societies, and that's where he bashed people's skulls in. I don't think you'd be all that welcome walking in with a gun even if you explained that you're only doing so to protect yourself.
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Most of Australia's banks and building societies have detectors that sound an alarm and cause bullet-proof glass panels to rise from their usual height to the ceiling if you enter their premises carrying one, concealed or not. That's why bank robberies have become just about non-existent lately. Beats crime more effectively than gun battles.
I've never seen a "detector" in an australian bank. What do these detectors look like??
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Re: Skull Cracker Walkies

Post by JimC » Wed May 07, 2014 3:22 am

rEvolutionist wrote:
Hermit wrote:
Seth wrote:
Hermit wrote:
Seth wrote:And you can't figure out why innocent citizens need to carry guns... Sheesh. :fp:
Michael Wheatley robbed banks and building societies, and that's where he bashed people's skulls in. I don't think you'd be all that welcome walking in with a gun even if you explained that you're only doing so to protect yourself.
Nobody would know I have a gun
Most of Australia's banks and building societies have detectors that sound an alarm and cause bullet-proof glass panels to rise from their usual height to the ceiling if you enter their premises carrying one, concealed or not. That's why bank robberies have become just about non-existent lately. Beats crime more effectively than gun battles.
I've never seen a "detector" in an australian bank. What do these detectors look like??
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Post by Seth » Wed May 07, 2014 3:52 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Seth, why do you keep talking about hammer attacks? The guy pistol-whipped people - you know, with a gun - that's where his nickname comes from. :tea:
My bad. I didn't read the root article, I just saw the "hammer" comment at the end of the OP and made an assumption that since I've been told time and time again that nobody in the UK possesses an illegal handgun and therefore there is no need for innocent citizens to be armed for self defense against said illegal handguns, I assumed he used a hammer.

So, how is it that he had an illegal handgun to pistol-whip people with if the laws of the UK are so all-fired effective at keeping guns away from criminals.

Oh, wait, never mind, they aren't effective at all.

But thanks for pointing out my error because it just makes my point all the more valid.
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Post by Seth » Wed May 07, 2014 4:00 am

JimC wrote:
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I've never seen a "detector" in an australian bank. What do these detectors look like??
They don't want people like you to know that...
Yes, you're right, because they don't exist. They are a propaganda fabrication of the police intended to frighten the gullible and comfort the sheeple.

And here's why:

When somebody with a gun decides to rob a bank, everybody in the place knows he has a gun about three seconds after he enters the bank because he's shooting it to frighten everyone. If you think a detector is going to matter to such a person you're a bigger idiot than I thought.

Most bank robberies (here) happen because banks have decided to just give up the cash and let the FBI track them down, which they do about 93% of the time, so you don't need a gun or anything else to rob a bank here.You just walk in, demand the money and they give it to you, and you walk out. And they have lots of pictures from the high-def video system to use to look for you.

The very few they haven't caught are the smart ones who use effective disguises and who know how to launder the cash so they don't get caught holding the bag with the recorded bill numbers in it.

Most bank robbers don't understand that scanning technology permits the Federal Reserve to make a list of every single serial number of every single bill they distribute in the Fed deliveries. Until the cash makes it out of the bank and into circulation, the vast majority of bills are in a database somewhere as being delivered to that bank, which makes them easy to trace when they hit the market.

I'm surprised more people don't understand the vast scope and reach of the federal databases.
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Re: Skull Cracker Walkies

Post by cronus » Wed May 07, 2014 4:26 am

Seth wrote:
JimC wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
I've never seen a "detector" in an australian bank. What do these detectors look like??
They don't want people like you to know that...
Yes, you're right, because they don't exist. They are a propaganda fabrication of the police intended to frighten the gullible and comfort the sheeple.

And here's why:

When somebody with a gun decides to rob a bank, everybody in the place knows he has a gun about three seconds after he enters the bank because he's shooting it to frighten everyone. If you think a detector is going to matter to such a person you're a bigger idiot than I thought.

Most bank robberies (here) happen because banks have decided to just give up the cash and let the FBI track them down, which they do about 93% of the time, so you don't need a gun or anything else to rob a bank here.You just walk in, demand the money and they give it to you, and you walk out. And they have lots of pictures from the high-def video system to use to look for you.

The very few they haven't caught are the smart ones who use effective disguises and who know how to launder the cash so they don't get caught holding the bag with the recorded bill numbers in it.

Most bank robbers don't understand that scanning technology permits the Federal Reserve to make a list of every single serial number of every single bill they distribute in the Fed deliveries. Until the cash makes it out of the bank and into circulation, the vast majority of bills are in a database somewhere as being delivered to that bank, which makes them easy to trace when they hit the market.

I'm surprised more people don't understand the vast scope and reach of the federal databases.
If you gonna rob for a living best to go for bullion or even better base metals like copper that aren't so heavily guarded or easy to identify. Vast swathes of unguarded electricity wires straddle the industrial landscape. Easy to make a living once you know what your doing. Why rob a bank when copper is going for $6700 a tonne? A small van and you are in the money after three months in the game. Careful to spread the area of operations so you don't flag up on some state computer, hide it in a barn until the market is on the up in a good way.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed May 07, 2014 5:54 am

Lol. And how does one sell copper on the black market?? Do you just drive around the streets with it in the back of the van. "Hey Guv!, want some copper!".
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Post by cronus » Wed May 07, 2014 6:05 am

rEvolutionist wrote:Lol. And how does one sell copper on the black market?? Do you just drive around the streets with it in the back of the van. "Hey Guv!, want some copper!".
Gotta have a few contacts in the copper trade. :tup:
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed May 07, 2014 6:10 am

Yeah, so basically it isn't actually the smart thing to do. Cash is heaps easier to launder/dispose of.
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Post by cronus » Wed May 07, 2014 6:19 am

rEvolutionist wrote:Yeah, so basically it isn't actually the smart thing to do. Cash is heaps easier to launder/dispose of.
Depends on your background. Heavy duty electrical cables wouldn't phase me. Even cash needs a launderer like you say, only easy if you know a good one. :?
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Post by Svartalf » Wed May 07, 2014 6:49 am

Scumple wrote:
Seth wrote:
JimC wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
I've never seen a "detector" in an australian bank. What do these detectors look like??
They don't want people like you to know that...
Yes, you're right, because they don't exist. They are a propaganda fabrication of the police intended to frighten the gullible and comfort the sheeple.

And here's why:

When somebody with a gun decides to rob a bank, everybody in the place knows he has a gun about three seconds after he enters the bank because he's shooting it to frighten everyone. If you think a detector is going to matter to such a person you're a bigger idiot than I thought.

Most bank robberies (here) happen because banks have decided to just give up the cash and let the FBI track them down, which they do about 93% of the time, so you don't need a gun or anything else to rob a bank here.You just walk in, demand the money and they give it to you, and you walk out. And they have lots of pictures from the high-def video system to use to look for you.

The very few they haven't caught are the smart ones who use effective disguises and who know how to launder the cash so they don't get caught holding the bag with the recorded bill numbers in it.

Most bank robbers don't understand that scanning technology permits the Federal Reserve to make a list of every single serial number of every single bill they distribute in the Fed deliveries. Until the cash makes it out of the bank and into circulation, the vast majority of bills are in a database somewhere as being delivered to that bank, which makes them easy to trace when they hit the market.

I'm surprised more people don't understand the vast scope and reach of the federal databases.
If you gonna rob for a living best to go for bullion or even better base metals like copper that aren't so heavily guarded or easy to identify. Vast swathes of unguarded electricity wires straddle the industrial landscape. Easy to make a living once you know what your doing. Why rob a bank when copper is going for $6700 a tonne? A small van and you are in the money after three months in the game. Careful to spread the area of operations so you don't flag up on some state computer, hide it in a barn until the market is on the up in a good way.
Copper thieves need to be strung up in public, or at least get 20-40 years without parole...
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Post by JimC » Wed May 07, 2014 7:17 am

They should cop a belting...
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Post by Hermit » Wed May 07, 2014 7:47 am

rEvolutionist wrote:Lol. And how does one sell copper on the black market?? Do you just drive around the streets with it in the back of the van. "Hey Guv!, want some copper!".
You'd be surprised how many manufacturers using copper are prepared to pay cash for copper at 50% of the official rate, no question asked. It's not all that difficult to slide a ton of it into the back of a ute. especially when there's a hundred bucks in it for the storeman to turn his back. Cameras can't cover everything. From there you just head for a manufacturer of taps, hinges, valves... Six grand net for two trips totalling four hours might appeal to some. Trouble of course, was that the bloke got greedy and a bit careless. He was caught on his third lap, as was the receiver of the goods.

Still, you're up for ten years gaol for armed robbery, even if you never fire a shot, and the average booty of armed bank robberies in Australia was something like $700. The copper thief got two years and was out on parole after three months.
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Post by Seth » Wed May 07, 2014 6:57 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:Lol. And how does one sell copper on the black market?? Do you just drive around the streets with it in the back of the van. "Hey Guv!, want some copper!".
No, you strip the wire of insulation, cut it up into manageable chunks and take it to just about any scrap yard and get $3.00 a pound for it, few, or no questions asked.

It's gotten so bad that thieves stripped the wire out of a highway lighting system under construction literally overnight one night before it could be powered up. Cost more than $200,000 to replace it and they had to have someone guard the installation until they got it hooked up and energized.

More than one thief has fried himself trying to steal 7500 volt energized lines.

Homeowners have heard thieves ripping off copper gutters and roofing while the owners are at home.

People on vacation have come home to find their houses stripped of copper water pipes and electrical wire.

Three bucks a pound makes even a small haul worthwhile for meth-heads and illegals.

I've got about 600 pounds worth of 10/3 and 6/4 SO cord lying around from my ranch days. I bought it 20 years ago when it was cheap to run with the 15KW generator I had. I also have some welding cable I'm no longer using. I keep it locked up because if I left it outside, it wouldn't last a day.

Municipalities have to put armored boxes around brass vacuum breakers in park watering systems because thieves will steal them if they don't.

The real problem is the recyclers, who need to be treated like pawn shops. Most of them now require photo ID to recycle scrap metal, and the one I use takes a picture of you and the load of scrap you're selling and keeps it on file. That's helped a bit, but there is still a black market out there for copper and brass.
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Re: Skull Cracker Walkies

Post by cronus » Wed May 07, 2014 7:08 pm

Yeah, copper is the thing if your a smart crim these days. I'd recommend it so long as you know what your doing with regards high tension cables. It's hanging around like it's wanting to be taken. If you don't know what you are doing leave it be, the bites are fatal. :tup:
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