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Post by Hermit » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:06 am

Svartalf wrote:I can't conceive how caviar can be regarded as edible, let alone a delicacy... sure is an acquired taste to begin with.
It's a matter of what you are used to. Many people cannot conceive of snails as edible, let alone a delicacy. What I find absurd is the notion that dropping bombs in the ocean is conceivably preferable to eating fish eggs.
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Post by Hermit » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:18 am

Svartalf wrote:They are all too often killed... that's why there are a lot less than there used to be around the Caspian.
Yes, that is true, but the three primary factors responsible for the fact that all 25 species of sturgeon have become critically endangered are loss of habitat, pollution and overfishing. None of these have anything to do with the harvesting of their roe. In other words, sturgeon population has plummeted for the same reasons most other species of fish that are not milked for their roe have.
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Post by Svartalf » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:31 am

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Svartalf wrote:I can't conceive how caviar can be regarded as edible, let alone a delicacy... sure is an acquired taste to begin with.
It's a matter of what you are used to. Many people cannot conceive of snails as edible, let alone a delicacy. What I find absurd is the notion that dropping bombs in the ocean is conceivably preferable to eating fish eggs.
I was surprised that escargots could actually be made tasty... not that they are a habit of mine either. As for the bomb slinging, it's easier for a state to furnish ordnance to its military than caviar.
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Post by Svartalf » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:32 am

Hermit wrote:
Svartalf wrote:They are all too often killed... that's why there are a lot less than there used to be around the Caspian.
Yes, that is true, but the three primary factors responsible for the fact that all 25 species of sturgeon have become critically endangered are loss of habitat, pollution and overfishing. None of these have anything to do with the harvesting of their roe. In other words, sturgeon population has plummeted for the same reasons most other species of fish that are not milked for their roe have.
Beg pardon, but sturgeons are not fished for their flesh...
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Post by Hermit » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:02 am

Svartalf wrote:
Hermit wrote:
Svartalf wrote:They are all too often killed... that's why there are a lot less than there used to be around the Caspian.
Yes, that is true, but the three primary factors responsible for the fact that all 25 species of sturgeon have become critically endangered are loss of habitat, pollution and overfishing. None of these have anything to do with the harvesting of their roe. In other words, sturgeon population has plummeted for the same reasons most other species of fish that are not milked for their roe have.
Beg pardon, but sturgeons are not fished for their flesh...
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Sturgeon meat is sold in quite a few shops and you can eat it in some restaurants. Even Costco sells it. Sales of sturgeon meat from aquaculture alone amounted to an estimated 29,300 tons in 2007. Considering that nobody knew how to close their life cycle in captivity until the early 1980s and their slow rate of growth to maturity, this is quite a feat.

A bit of fact checking might stand you in good stead.
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Post by Svartalf » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:09 am

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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:15 am

I knew that already. As well as everything else I heard today. I didn't learn anything today. Or yesterday. :smoke:
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Post by FBM » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:38 am

I hate when that happens.
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Post by Hermit » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:45 am

FBM wrote:I hate when that happens.
When what happens? Learning something new or the inability to learn because your head is stuck too far up your arse to notice anything apart from the shit in your duodenum? :mrgreen:

Or are we back to hating the ritual blowing up of fishies?
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:47 am

I don't see anything to hate about knowing everything. I like that state. :coffee:
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Post by FBM » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:49 am

Hermit wrote:
FBM wrote:I hate when that happens.
When what happens? Learning something new or the inability to learn because your head is stuck too far up your arse to notice anything apart from the shit in your duodenum? :mrgreen:

Or are we back to hating the ritual blowing up of fishies?
Nope, this: "I didn't learn anything today. Or yesterday."
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Post by Hermit » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:54 am

FBM wrote:
Hermit wrote:
FBM wrote:I hate when that happens.
When what happens? Learning something new or the inability to learn because your head is stuck too far up your arse to notice anything apart from the shit in your duodenum? :mrgreen:

Or are we back to hating the ritual blowing up of fishies?
Nope, this: "I didn't learn anything today. Or yesterday."
Agreed. Learning something new is progress for me, and especially so when I am being shown to be wrong in the process. Love it either way.
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:55 am

I prefer to be right all the time. It's my natural state.
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Post by FBM » Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:00 pm

Hermit wrote:Agreed. Learning something new is progress for me, and especially so when I am being shown to be wrong in the process. Love it either way.
I'm not sure what the point would be of spending a whole day without learning anything, much less two.
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No, it's not. You're wrong about that. :tea:
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Re: North and South Korea exchange fire across western sea b

Post by Clinton Huxley » Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:07 pm

Learning leads to change, which is always to be abhorred. We didn't learn anything in the Crimea.

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