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by klr » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:33 pm
mistermack wrote:They're on about oil today. Scotland gets an equal amount of money back from the rest of the UK now, so if they gain the oil revenues, they will lose an equal amount from the treasury. They won't be a penny better off.
But, if Salmond does get his way, and Scots DO get lots more money, they will probably up sticks, and move to Greece, and live next door to SIR Sean Canary, the greatest living ''Scotsman''.
As I said before, if the Scots really do have that much oil, they'll have to be a net contributor to the EU from day one.
We look forward to the Scots financing some social cohesion projects, in, say ... Somerset.
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by DaveDodo007 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:04 am
JimC wrote:DaveDodo007 wrote:It just looks to me like the Scots are being bullied into voting no.
Or simply being told of the real consequences of a yes vote...
The EU admitting that Scotland will get a shitty deal (good PR that for the EU newbies) if it joins as an independent nation? Bank of England saying it will take its ball home if the skirt wearers vote no. I don't know if it is a good idea for Scotland to vote yes but I can smell propaganda when it stinks out the place.
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by mistermack » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:37 am
DaveDodo007 wrote:JimC wrote:DaveDodo007 wrote:It just looks to me like the Scots are being bullied into voting no.
Or simply being told of the real consequences of a yes vote...
The EU admitting that Scotland will get a shitty deal (good PR that for the EU newbies) if it joins as an independent nation? Bank of England saying it will take its ball home if the skirt wearers vote no. I don't know if it is a good idea for Scotland to vote yes but I can smell propaganda when it stinks out the place.
It's not propaganda if it's true.
It would be hardly ethical to give the Scots false confidence of the ease of EU membership, or for the UK govt to wait till after the vote, to mention that they wouldn't want to share a currency.
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by JimC » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:05 am
If I tell a student that the inevitable consequence of failing to submit an assignment on tine (other than a legitimate medical reason) is a detention, is that bullying?
(I just know someone will post that bloody Pink Floyd song!

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by mistermack » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:23 am
JimC wrote:
(I just know someone will post that bloody Pink Floyd song!

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All in all you're just. . . . . . . . . probably right.
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by JimC » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:54 am
I'm an absolute brick...
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by Audley Strange » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:10 am
Clinton Huxley wrote:There was an article in, I think, the Guardian, this week which called the form of independence that was on offer in this rumbling farce of a process the "independence of the granny-flat". Spot on, that.
Yeah, Keep Liz and her parasites, keep your sterling, keep your army, keep it all, if we want out we want out, anything else is just taking the piss.
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by Svartalf » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:20 am
JimC wrote:I'm an absolute brick...
Have some gin, maybe it will dissolve the mortar
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by devogue » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:50 am
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by JimC » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:15 pm
Nurse, where the fuck's my cardigan?
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by DaveDodo007 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:30 pm
Yeah all the negative stories appearing around the same time. There has to be some sort of currency agreement or business will suffer on both sides of the border, a border that will never be physical. Nor will there ever be a need for visas for any nationals because rUK will have to make the transition easy for its own population. Independence will be hard on Scotland but will be carried along on a nationalistic wave.
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by Thinking Aloud » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:40 pm
I'd hate to be someone born in England, who considers themselves British, and who was living in Scotland just now.
AAGGHHH.
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by klr » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:56 pm
Thinking Aloud wrote:I'd hate to be someone born in England, who considers themselves British, and who was living in Scotland just now.
AAGGHHH.
You could move to Norn' Iron.

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