Ham on Nye.

[mistermack]

What I found lacking, was any trace of derision. It's all very good to respect rational people, when you are debating them, but this is not something or someone that deserves respect.

That's why it was always a mistake to debate the twat. He's a fucking loony, representing a complete bunch of loonies, and yet he was given respect. He should have been given a very big injection, and put back to bed.

The public shouldn't be given the impression that there were two rational points of view on this.
It should be made clear that one lot ARE raving loonies. By not debating with them, as if they are sane.

Dawkins was completely right.

[Hermit]

What I found lacking, was any trace of derision. It's all very good to respect rational people, when you are debating them, but this is not something or someone that deserves respect.

That's why it was always a mistake to debate the twat. He's a fucking loony, representing a complete bunch of loonies, and yet he was given respect. He should have been given a very big injection, and put back to bed.

The public shouldn't be given the impression that there were two rational points of view on this.
It should be made clear that one lot ARE raving loonies. By not debating with them, as if they are sane.

Dawkins was completely right.

Oh, look at that. You and I agree on something.

[Jason]

Ham looked like a complete arse thumping his bible instead of presenting arguments. The more important bit was that he was there representing AiG. With 8% of the polled audience giving a victory to Ham, I think it went pretty well for Nye.

Answers in Genesis didn't gain any credibility thanks to that debate and neither did Ham.

[mistermack]

Ham looked like a complete arse thumping his bible instead of presenting arguments. The more important bit was that he was there representing AiG. With 8% of the polled audience giving a victory to Ham, I think it went pretty well for Nye.

Answers in Genesis didn't gain any credibility thanks to that debate and neither did Ham.

The fact that the question was ''who won the debate'' means that they DID gain credibility.
Their level went up from loony to loser. That IS all they could have hoped for, and they got it.

Ham actually gained ground by not being treated as a loony, so , in that regard, he won.

[Animavore]

[FBM]

Ka-blam! Nailed it. Well done.

[Animavore]

From the comments on that vid.

I like to call it observational christianity and historical christianity... everything we observe about christians today, like bigotry, hatred of outsiders, closed-mindedness, lack of knowledge of anything outside their beliefs, and so forth are "observational christianity".... all the statements about what happened in the past, "Yahweh, Jesus, the crucifixion, virgin birth, Noah and the flood are all "historical christianity" and cannot be proven because "you weren't there"

[pErvinalia]

Nice!

[Tero]

Bookmarking, video.

[JimC]

From the comments on that vid.

I like to call it observational christianity and historical christianity... everything we observe about christians today, like bigotry, hatred of outsiders, closed-mindedness, lack of knowledge of anything outside their beliefs, and so forth are "observational christianity".... all the statements about what happened in the past, "Yahweh, Jesus, the crucifixion, virgin birth, Noah and the flood are all "historical christianity" and cannot be proven because "you weren't there"

"By their fruits ye shall know them..."