The good news about the Bible!
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Noah is released soon starring Russel Crowe. You don't get better genocide than what's in that one.
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Animals on a boat? Bah!
What good is a religion if it ain't got blood and titties? I say we need a NC17 miniseries about David!
What good is a religion if it ain't got blood and titties? I say we need a NC17 miniseries about David!
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I think it's better to keep the kiddies away from the bible. The bible is a propeganda and recruiting document. It's stories aren't told as stories, they claim to be true.
Christianity has survived by each new generation getting indoctrinated by the previous one.
I think it's better to break that cycle.
What would the Bishops want? They would want your kids to read the babble. That's certain.
Christianity has survived by each new generation getting indoctrinated by the previous one.
I think it's better to break that cycle.
What would the Bishops want? They would want your kids to read the babble. That's certain.
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It's simply getting replaced by better stories and story telling in books, but also in movies, TV and computer games. It's no wonder the more fundy religious types try keep their children away from these modern devils.
As a kid I couldn't wait to get away from mass because it was so bloody boring. Why would I want to be at church when I could be at home watching M.A.S.K. or Thundercats which have much better adventure, adventure that I could relate to, and more coherent stories?
Without indoctrination, or some serious reworking of the Bible, what honest chance does it genuinely have in today's market place of ideas and entertainment?
As a kid I couldn't wait to get away from mass because it was so bloody boring. Why would I want to be at church when I could be at home watching M.A.S.K. or Thundercats which have much better adventure, adventure that I could relate to, and more coherent stories?
Without indoctrination, or some serious reworking of the Bible, what honest chance does it genuinely have in today's market place of ideas and entertainment?
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It definitely needs reworking. Maybe we should incorporate some of the works of Shakespeare into a Third Testament.Animavore wrote: Without indoctrination, or some serious reworking of the Bible, what honest chance does it genuinely have in today's market place of ideas and entertainment?
On a related note: Here's a brief history of east end of the Mediterranean.
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^^^^^^^^^^
Fucking brilliant!
Fucking brilliant!
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Sure is. 

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JimC wrote:^^^^^^^^^^
Fucking brilliant!
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ScottishRobert_S wrote:Maccabee
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Och fuckin' aye, the noo...Hermit wrote:ScottishRobert_S wrote:Maccabee
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The same woman did a full length film. I made a thread about it here: http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=47107
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Mistermack nailed it when he said the problem is that the bible stories are taught as true stories.
I have no problem with bible stories being taught, as long they are correctly identified as myths and legends.
I have no problem with bible stories being taught, as long they are correctly identified as myths and legends.
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Widespread ignorance exists among children and parents about the contents of the Bible books in general.

Literacy rates in the UK are declining generally, along with a few other social indicators.
Meanwhile....atheism is on the rise among young people in the UK right??An international survey by the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development has found standards of literacy and numeracy among school-leavers in England and Northern Ireland to be among the lowest in the developed world. Shockingly, older people leaving the workforce were better educated than those joining it. This may be the first time in recorded history that such a phenomenon has occurred, with the young worse educated than their parents.

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That's nice.Lion IRC wrote:Widespread ignorance exists among children and parents about the contents of the Bible books in general.![]()
Literacy rates in the UK are declining generally, along with a few other social indicators.
It doesn't change the fact that increased religiosity in a country generally is associated with more societal ills.
You might want to try to read the article.Lion IRC wrote:An international survey by the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development has found standards of literacy and numeracy among school-leavers in England and Northern Ireland to be among the lowest in the developed world. Shockingly, older people leaving the workforce were better educated than those joining it. This may be the first time in recorded history that such a phenomenon has occurred, with the young worse educated than their parents.
It does not support your claim.
There is nothing in it about religion as a cause in any way.
That's nice.Lion IRC wrote:Meanwhile....atheism is on the rise among young people in the UK right??
Creationism is also on the rise in the UK.
Substitute bad education for good education and the children are less well educated.
ETA: And, then there is religion increasingly usurping education in the UK: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... ?CMP=fb_ot
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What are you implying? That theism rises as educational levels do? I have news for you: As the level of education rises, belief in a god drops.Lion IRC wrote:Literacy rates in the UK are declining generally, along with a few other social indicators.Meanwhile....atheism is on the rise among young people in the UK right??An international survey by the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development has found standards of literacy and numeracy among school-leavers in England and Northern Ireland to be among the lowest in the developed world. Shockingly, older people leaving the workforce were better educated than those joining it. This may be the first time in recorded history that such a phenomenon has occurred, with the young worse educated than their parents.
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