Long-term global warming trend sustained in 2013

[macdoc]

Now I wonder why Exxon would be touting reduced carbon if AGW were not real...... :scratch:



or are they in the conspiracy as well

[macdoc]

Now I wonder why Exxon would be touting reduced carbon if AGW were not real......



or are they in the conspiracy as well

[pErvinalia]

Now I wonder why Exxon would be touting reduced carbon if AGW were not real...... :scratch:



or are they in the conspiracy as well

The government and scientists have implanted mind control chips in them, Mac. Don't you know anything?

[Jason]

Now I wonder why Exxon would be touting reduced carbon if AGW were not real...... :scratch:



or are they in the conspiracy as well

Real or not, it's what sells to the public. That's all that matters to corporations.

[macdoc]

funny they didn't play that tune for the last 19 years.....

[Jason]

Not really funny. Public opinion has turned in the past decade.

[mistermack]

Not really funny. Public opinion has turned in the past decade.

Yes it has.
Not from new evidence. The evidence in the last decade has all been against the models being correct.
Even some of the most rabid adherents admit that the models were over-pessimistic.
Not from observable warming.

Nope. Public opinion has turned due to constant REPETITION.
Something the religions knew, a thousand years ago.
Repeat something often enough, and eventually the mugs will believe it. Even if they don't understand it.

[pErvinalia]

I don't know where you lot live, but the only turn in public opinion has been in the last few years with an increasing number of denialists. Global warming has been accepted fact in Australia for probably 20 years at least. But thanks to the campaign of big coal/oil, the Murdoch press, and conservative idiots, it seems there are more denialists than ever.

[Jason]

You know where I live. Hint: It's cold outside. -20c or so. Global warming my furry arse!

[macdoc]

Nope. Public opinion has turned due to constant REPETITION.
Something the religions knew, a thousand years ago.
Repeat something often enough, and eventually the mugs will believe it. Even if they don't understand it.

the irony the irony...

you don't have a fucking CLUE about evidence of climate change and all you do is regurgitate stale memes from the right wing denial machine that IS swaying public opinion....after all if you have enough money you can propagate lies ....

Now tell us oh informed one...how 10 of the 12 hottest years occurred and the ocean is heating faster than ever squares with failed models....only in your weird world.

If the models were "pessimistic" whatever that means in your strange universe....they have been consistently conservative.

It's gotten warmer faster...especially in 2013....

Climate change is slowly but steadily cooking the world’s oceans
By Gwynn Guilford @sinoceros February 4, 2014

The sea absorbs 90% of global warming. Reuters/Francois Lenoir

Because the ocean’s so big—it takes up more than 70% of the planet’s surface—it absorbs a lot of energy without anyone being much the wiser. Here’s a look at data for the upper 2,000 meters (1.14 miles) of the global ocean. Check out the three-month moving average for the last quarter of 2013, via the National Oceanographic Data Center, which actually goes off the chart:

​ National Oceanographic Data Center (NODC)
Roughly speaking, from about 1980 to 2000, the ocean gained around 50 zettajoules (ZJ, or 1021 joules) of heat. But from 2000 to 2013, it added another 150 ZJs of heat. Of course, even if you knew what a zettajoule is, it’s hard to envision what this means. Science Skeptic, a blog on climate change, offers this useful analogy: Over the last half-dozen or so decades, the ocean’s been storing the heat energy equivalent of about two Hiroshima bombs per second. Worryingly, that rate’s picking up, with around four bombs per second stored in the last 16 years.
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In 2013, however, the ocean gained the heat equivalent to about 12 bombs per second, says Science Skeptic.
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That adds up to more than 378 million atomic bombs a year worth of heat. That’s troublesome, considering that warmer waters are thought to make hurricanes and typhoons more severe, including Typhoon Haiyan, which ravaged the Philippines in 2013. Warmer waters also cause global sea levels to rise, threatening property values and exacerbating flooding.


​”Thermosteric” means how much sea surface height changes due to temperature-induced expansion or contraction of ocean volume. National Oceanographic Data Center (NODC)
The variation in surface temperature is a big reason people suspect that the earth is getting warmer.
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Deep-ocean temperatures are among the more consistent indicators of how our climate is changing. Solar energy transmitted by greenhouse gases doesn’t necessarily translate to warmer surface temperatures, which are also influenced by a slew of other factors, including wind and current.

In the last decade, around one-third of global warming showed up 700 meters under the sea’s surface or deeper, according to research (pdf) by Magdalena A. Balmaseda, Kevin E. Trenberth and Erland Källén published last year.
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[Audley Strange]

In R'lyeh Dead Cthulhu lies farting.

[mistermack]

Macdoc's still copying and pasting directly from rabid bloggers, and trying to pass it off as science.

It's sad.

[pErvinalia]

It's happy.

[Tero]

Macdoc's still copying and pasting directly from rabid bloggers, and trying to pass it off as science.

It's sad.

I gave you the numbers years ago and asked you to put them in Excel so you can plot the graph of global warming. You didn't try. The NASA numbers are public. No tree rings needed.

[mistermack]

Macdoc's still copying and pasting directly from rabid bloggers, and trying to pass it off as science.

It's sad.

I gave you the numbers years ago and asked you to put them in Excel so you can plot the graph of global warming. You didn't try. The NASA numbers are public. No tree rings needed.

I gave the facts earlier in this thread, and linked to the NASA site that provided them.
Why would I need to mess about with Excel? I didn't see you contest my post. But I'll post it again.

How much warmer is the Earth since 1950? 0.6 degrees !!! Shock horror.

That's it. 0.6 degrees. In sixty odd years. And it stopped going up nearly SEVENTEEN years ago.

That's seventeen years of global warming, with no global warming. WHAT THE FUCK?????

Warmer yes, but only about half a degree. It's fuck-all.

It warmed very slightly for about 47 years. Then it stopped completely for 17.

http://climate.nasa.gov/news/1029