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Re: I just realized...

Post by Audley Strange » Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:41 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Audley Strange wrote:Yeah I know that feeling. I feel that way about Mumford and Sons currently.
As Bob Dylan said: There's nothing, really nothing, to turn off. :tea:
He'd have probably been more popular if he said something that made sense. Four years I searched the wind, still no answer.
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Post by Robert_S » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:01 pm

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It's not the working class over here that I have to hear it from. They annoy the hell out of me with stuff like that Linkin Park song that recently got re-animated and played at asinine volumes, not that it mattered, really.

Actually, I heard Oasis from the more well off suburbanite kids.
Wonder if its because they are seen as "British Indie" which itself seems to be a taxonomy I've heard from hipster students from Boston. (You in Boston Robert? And was the last bit a joke about that bloody Linkin Park song... don't get me started on those screamo pricks :steam vents:) I wonder if its student music there. It certainly was here at first, (they were on Creation, known for its "cool" bands) but they were grabbed by the working class kids that everyone forgot still had money.
They were never seen as indie here. It's more like they fit halfway under the "alternative" umbrella, (which after 1991, just meant a different flavor of mainstream) and "soft rock". It was never hipsters who picked it up here as far as I can tell. They got too popular too fast for that.

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[Robert_S wrote: I know it's odd, which is why I started a thread over it. For the longest time I was like Hermit. The songs just passed through me mostly, with maybe a phrase or two kinda sticking in my head. I didn't have to think about them. They were like white noise, yet somehow catchy. Then, just a couple days ago, I did pay attention and I felt... violated somehow.
Yeah I know that feeling. I feel that way about Mumford and Sons currently.
Yeah, there are plenty of bands and songs that I dislike more, but I manage to have a negative feeling and be done with it.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: I just realized...

Post by rachelbean » Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:28 pm

Robert_S wrote:
Audley Strange wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
It's not the working class over here that I have to hear it from. They annoy the hell out of me with stuff like that Linkin Park song that recently got re-animated and played at asinine volumes, not that it mattered, really.

Actually, I heard Oasis from the more well off suburbanite kids.
Wonder if its because they are seen as "British Indie" which itself seems to be a taxonomy I've heard from hipster students from Boston. (You in Boston Robert? And was the last bit a joke about that bloody Linkin Park song... don't get me started on those screamo pricks :steam vents:) I wonder if its student music there. It certainly was here at first, (they were on Creation, known for its "cool" bands) but they were grabbed by the working class kids that everyone forgot still had money.
They were never seen as indie here. It's more like they fit halfway under the "alternative" umbrella, (which after 1991, just meant a different flavor of mainstream) and "soft rock". It was never hipsters who picked it up here as far as I can tell. They got too popular too fast for that.
That's not really true. Until 'Wonderwall' came out not a lot of people knew who Oasis were unless you were into indie rock/import/college stuff. The first album wasn't anything anybody except my rock nerd friends down at my favourite record shop even knew about for the most part :dunno:
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Re: I just realized...

Post by Robert_S » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:05 pm

rachelbean wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Audley Strange wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
It's not the working class over here that I have to hear it from. They annoy the hell out of me with stuff like that Linkin Park song that recently got re-animated and played at asinine volumes, not that it mattered, really.

Actually, I heard Oasis from the more well off suburbanite kids.
Wonder if its because they are seen as "British Indie" which itself seems to be a taxonomy I've heard from hipster students from Boston. (You in Boston Robert? And was the last bit a joke about that bloody Linkin Park song... don't get me started on those screamo pricks :steam vents:) I wonder if its student music there. It certainly was here at first, (they were on Creation, known for its "cool" bands) but they were grabbed by the working class kids that everyone forgot still had money.
They were never seen as indie here. It's more like they fit halfway under the "alternative" umbrella, (which after 1991, just meant a different flavor of mainstream) and "soft rock". It was never hipsters who picked it up here as far as I can tell. They got too popular too fast for that.
That's not really true. Until 'Wonderwall' came out not a lot of people knew who Oasis were unless you were into indie rock/import/college stuff. The first album wasn't anything anybody except my rock nerd friends down at my favourite record shop even knew about for the most part :dunno:
I maybe shouldn't have said "never" but it was only about a year between the release of Definitely Maybe and What's the Story.

I don't mean they were manufactured by the likes of Tom Petty's Joe, but they did get into the top 40 pretty quickly.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: I just realized...

Post by klr » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:27 pm

Hmm. I never really dug Oasis - or Blur for that matter. I listened to them back in the day, but they were never anything special to me.

Except maybe for ...

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Re: I just realized...

Post by PsychoSerenity » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:32 pm

As a result of this thread I've been listening to more Oasis in the last few days than I've heard in the last five years. :hehe:

Going through the whole of Definitely Maybe now. Image
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