CHEESE IS MORE THAN BACON!!1!!!! COMPLY!!1!!rEvolutionist wrote:Yeah, I answered these before. Those are statements on the physical laws of the universe. Not maths.



CHEESE IS MORE THAN BACON!!1!!!! COMPLY!!1!!rEvolutionist wrote:Yeah, I answered these before. Those are statements on the physical laws of the universe. Not maths.
Only in part.rEvolutionist wrote:Yeah, I answered these before. Those are statements on the physical laws of the universe. Not maths.
There are an abundance of near-perfect spheres. Any being wishing to calculate their volume would require the ratio π (or a multiple of it.)rEvolutionist wrote:The pi one is interesting. Are there perfect circles in nature, or is a circle a human invention?
Neither.rEvolutionist wrote:The pi one is interesting. Are there perfect circles in nature, or is a circle a human invention?
Actually, π turns up in many places without there being any need for a "perfect circle". The swing of a pendulum, for example. It is also prevalent in the fundamental formulae of both relativity and quantum mechanics.JimC wrote:Neither.rEvolutionist wrote:The pi one is interesting. Are there perfect circles in nature, or is a circle a human invention?
No physical object could ever be a perfect circle; the bottom line would be quantum disturbances at the Planck length level, if nothing else.
However, the circle exists as a logical consequence of the existence of pure numbers, plus the logic of relationships and the nature of space itself. Humans discovered the perfect circle, and the rest of mathematics, as a inevitable and logical consequence of simpler relationships.
I said "perfect", not "near-perfect".Xamonas Chegwé wrote:There are an abundance of near-perfect spheres. Any being wishing to calculate their volume would require the ratio π (or a multiple of it.)rEvolutionist wrote:The pi one is interesting. Are there perfect circles in nature, or is a circle a human invention?
It does turn up in many other places, but I think its presence as a vital ratio within a perfect circle is its fundamental origin. The unit circle is the basis for trigonometry, which in turn is a vital component of many other mathematical relationships.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Actually, π turns up in many places without there being any need for a "perfect circle". The swing of a pendulum, for example. It is also prevalent in the fundamental formulae of both relativity and quantum mechanics.JimC wrote:Neither.rEvolutionist wrote:The pi one is interesting. Are there perfect circles in nature, or is a circle a human invention?
No physical object could ever be a perfect circle; the bottom line would be quantum disturbances at the Planck length level, if nothing else.
However, the circle exists as a logical consequence of the existence of pure numbers, plus the logic of relationships and the nature of space itself. Humans discovered the perfect circle, and the rest of mathematics, as a inevitable and logical consequence of simpler relationships.
But pendulums exist whether or not a prefect circle does.JimC wrote:It does turn up in many other places, but I think its presence as a vital ratio within a perfect circle is its fundamental origin. The unit circle is the basis for trigonometry, which in turn is a vital component of many other mathematical relationships.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Actually, π turns up in many places without there being any need for a "perfect circle". The swing of a pendulum, for example. It is also prevalent in the fundamental formulae of both relativity and quantum mechanics.JimC wrote:Neither.rEvolutionist wrote:The pi one is interesting. Are there perfect circles in nature, or is a circle a human invention?
No physical object could ever be a perfect circle; the bottom line would be quantum disturbances at the Planck length level, if nothing else.
However, the circle exists as a logical consequence of the existence of pure numbers, plus the logic of relationships and the nature of space itself. Humans discovered the perfect circle, and the rest of mathematics, as a inevitable and logical consequence of simpler relationships.
Which reminds me, creamπs certainly exist in nature.rEvolutionist wrote:I've come across all sorts of things in my life...
First, let me get the humorous dig out of the way...XC wrote:
But pendulums exist whether or not a prefect circle does.
The only unspeakable thing I have ever done to a fag is drop its butt into a urinal (you can take that how you wish!JimC wrote:First, let me get the humorous dig out of the way...XC wrote:
But pendulums exist whether or not a prefect circle does.
A prefect circle, eh? Would that be a circle of Etonian bully boys standing around discussing the best way to make a fag do unspeakable things?
Now for the rest. Yes, pendulums exist, and Pi is an essential part of the mathematical patterns that describe and/or govern them. But the existence of Pi as a point on the real number line exists because of a logical relationships that build a perfect circle. It then becomes part of an ever-increasing tree of further mathematical structures, with the perfect circle forming part of the root...
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