Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

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Re: Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

Post by hackenslash » Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:47 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Personally, I think it has a long way to go to achieve balderdashhood. It's mainly fæcal matter in liquid form from what I can see.
Dearie me, dude. This is the Mariah Carey school of debunking. Why sing 1 note when 57 will do?

Call it bum-custard and move on. :tut:
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Re: Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

Post by mistermack » Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:01 am

hackenslash wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Personally, I think it has a long way to go to achieve balderdashhood. It's mainly fæcal matter in liquid form from what I can see.
Dearie me, dude. This is the Mariah Carey school of debunking. Why sing 1 note when 57 will do?
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Re: Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

Post by James Redford » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:07 pm

JimC wrote:
James Redford wrote:In addition to my aforecited article "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything" (Social Science Research Network, Sept. 10, 2012 [orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011], 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708; PDF, 1741424 bytes, MD5: 8f7b21ee1e236fc2fbb22b4ee4bbd4cb; http://ssrn.com/abstract=1974708 , http://archive.org/details/ThePhysicsOf ... Everything ), see also the below resource, in which are six sections that contain very informative videos of physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler explaining the Omega Point cosmology, which is a proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) of God's existence per the known laws of physics (viz., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics), and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE), which is also required by the known laws of physics. The seventh section therein contains an audio interview of Tipler.

I also provide some helpful notes and commentary for some of these videos.

James Redford, "Video of Profs. Frank Tipler and Lawrence Krauss's Debate at Caltech: Can Physics Prove God and Christianity?", alt.sci.astro, Message-ID: jghev8tcbv02b6vn3uiq8jmelp7jijluqk@4ax.com , 30 Jul 2013 00:51:55 -0400. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic ... QWt4KcpMVo , http://archive.is/a04w9 , http://webcitation.org/6IUTAMEyS The plain text of this post is available at: TXT, 42423 bytes, MD5: b199e867e42d54b2b8bf6adcb4127761. http://mirrorcreator.com/files/JCFTZSS8/ , http://ziddu.com/download/22782349/ , http://ge.tt/3lOTVbp
Laughable balderdash, with a side helping of utter and complete crap.

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Physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology is a proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) of God's existence per the known laws of physics (viz., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics), which have been confirmed by every experiment to date. Hence, the only way to avoid the Omega Point Theorem is to reject empirical science. As Prof. Stephen Hawking wrote, "one cannot really argue with a mathematical theorem." (From p. 67 of Stephen Hawking, The Illustrated A Brief History of Time [New York, NY: Bantam Books, 1996; 1st ed., 1988].) Further, the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE) correctly describing and unifying all the forces in physics is also mathematically required by the aforesaid known physical laws. The Omega Point cosmology has been published and extensively peer-reviewed in leading physics journals.
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Re: Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

Post by Svartalf » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:31 pm

wtf? what's with the necromancy dude...

As for proof of god's existence, you can't prove something with what is, at best, a hypothesis, not even a proper theory.
So balderdash.
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Re: Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

Post by mistermack » Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:48 pm

James Redford wrote: Physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology is a proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) of God's existence per the known laws of physics (viz., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics), which have been confirmed by every experiment to date. Hence, the only way to avoid the Omega Point Theorem is to reject empirical science. As Prof. Stephen Hawking wrote, "one cannot really argue with a mathematical theorem." (From p. 67 of Stephen Hawking, The Illustrated A Brief History of Time [New York, NY: Bantam Books, 1996; 1st ed., 1988].) Further, the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE) correctly describing and unifying all the forces in physics is also mathematically required by the aforesaid known physical laws. The Omega Point cosmology has been published and extensively peer-reviewed in leading physics journals.
I did read up on Tipler once, many moons ago.
The above statement is very wide of the truth. I came to the conclusion that he's an obsessive, and just doing what a lot of people do. Going for the shrinking gaps in scientific knowledge, and trying to say that god must have done it.
But of course that's been going on for thousands of years. People used to point at the Sun, or trees, or the ocean, and say that someone must have made them.

Nowadays, with such a lot of stuff understood by science, the gaps are getting smaller.
But one thing will always be there, for the loonies to exploit, and that's infinity.

Nobody understands infinity. So anything that involves infinity is always going to be fertile ground for the ''god did it'' crowd.
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Re: Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

Post by piscator » Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:49 am

Just replace "Thermodynamic Heat Death of the universe" for both "Omega" and "God" in the non peer reviewed synopsis, and see if it sounds better in that key.

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Re: Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:07 am

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Re: Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:37 pm

James Redford wrote:
JimC wrote:
James Redford wrote:In addition to my aforecited article "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything" (Social Science Research Network, Sept. 10, 2012 [orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011], 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708; PDF, 1741424 bytes, MD5: 8f7b21ee1e236fc2fbb22b4ee4bbd4cb; http://ssrn.com/abstract=1974708 , http://archive.org/details/ThePhysicsOf ... Everything ), see also the below resource, in which are six sections that contain very informative videos of physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler explaining the Omega Point cosmology, which is a proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) of God's existence per the known laws of physics (viz., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics), and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE), which is also required by the known laws of physics. The seventh section therein contains an audio interview of Tipler.

I also provide some helpful notes and commentary for some of these videos.

James Redford, "Video of Profs. Frank Tipler and Lawrence Krauss's Debate at Caltech: Can Physics Prove God and Christianity?", alt.sci.astro, Message-ID: jghev8tcbv02b6vn3uiq8jmelp7jijluqk@4ax.com , 30 Jul 2013 00:51:55 -0400. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic ... QWt4KcpMVo , http://archive.is/a04w9 , http://webcitation.org/6IUTAMEyS The plain text of this post is available at: TXT, 42423 bytes, MD5: b199e867e42d54b2b8bf6adcb4127761. http://mirrorcreator.com/files/JCFTZSS8/ , http://ziddu.com/download/22782349/ , http://ge.tt/3lOTVbp
Laughable balderdash, with a side helping of utter and complete crap.

Hold the rationality...
Physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology is a proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) of God's existence per the known laws of physics (viz., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics), which have been confirmed by every experiment to date. Hence, the only way to avoid the Omega Point Theorem is to reject empirical science. As Prof. Stephen Hawking wrote, "one cannot really argue with a mathematical theorem." (From p. 67 of Stephen Hawking, The Illustrated A Brief History of Time [New York, NY: Bantam Books, 1996; 1st ed., 1988].) Further, the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE) correctly describing and unifying all the forces in physics is also mathematically required by the aforesaid known physical laws. The Omega Point cosmology has been published and extensively peer-reviewed in leading physics journals.
Mathematics (alone) isn't empirical science.

And there is no working TOE.
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Re: Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

Post by James Redford » Wed Feb 11, 2015 4:10 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
James Redford wrote:
JimC wrote:
James Redford wrote:In addition to my aforecited article "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything" (Social Science Research Network, Sept. 10, 2012 [orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011], 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708; PDF, 1741424 bytes, MD5: 8f7b21ee1e236fc2fbb22b4ee4bbd4cb; http://ssrn.com/abstract=1974708 , http://archive.org/details/ThePhysicsOf ... Everything ), see also the below resource, in which are six sections that contain very informative videos of physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler explaining the Omega Point cosmology, which is a proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) of God's existence per the known laws of physics (viz., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics), and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE), which is also required by the known laws of physics. The seventh section therein contains an audio interview of Tipler.

I also provide some helpful notes and commentary for some of these videos.

James Redford, "Video of Profs. Frank Tipler and Lawrence Krauss's Debate at Caltech: Can Physics Prove God and Christianity?", alt.sci.astro, Message-ID: jghev8tcbv02b6vn3uiq8jmelp7jijluqk@4ax.com , 30 Jul 2013 00:51:55 -0400. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic ... QWt4KcpMVo , http://archive.is/a04w9 , http://webcitation.org/6IUTAMEyS The plain text of this post is available at: TXT, 42423 bytes, MD5: b199e867e42d54b2b8bf6adcb4127761. http://mirrorcreator.com/files/JCFTZSS8/ , http://ziddu.com/download/22782349/ , http://ge.tt/3lOTVbp
Laughable balderdash, with a side helping of utter and complete crap.

Hold the rationality...
Physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology is a proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) of God's existence per the known laws of physics (viz., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics), which have been confirmed by every experiment to date. Hence, the only way to avoid the Omega Point Theorem is to reject empirical science. As Prof. Stephen Hawking wrote, "one cannot really argue with a mathematical theorem." (From p. 67 of Stephen Hawking, The Illustrated A Brief History of Time [New York, NY: Bantam Books, 1996; 1st ed., 1988].) Further, the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE) correctly describing and unifying all the forces in physics is also mathematically required by the aforesaid known physical laws. The Omega Point cosmology has been published and extensively peer-reviewed in leading physics journals.
Mathematics (alone) isn't empirical science.

And there is no working TOE.
The field of physics does involve mathematical proofs of physical theories, i.e., physical theorems, such as the Penrose-Hawking-Geroch Singularity Theorems which proved that the Big Bang initial singularity necessarily exists per General Relativity and given attractive gravity. Likewise, the Omega Point/Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity theory is a mathematical theorem if General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics are correct. As Prof. Stephen Hawking wrote, "one cannot really argue with a mathematical theorem." (From p. 67 of Stephen Hawking, The Illustrated A Brief History of Time [New York, NY: Bantam Books, 1996; 1st ed., 1988].)

Further, due to Liouville's Theorem in complex analysis, it doesn't matter what form of physics one resorts to, as any physically-realistic cosmology (e.g., one capable of incorporating Quantum Mechanics, since the complex number field is intrinsic to the mathematical formulations of Quantum Mechanics) must begin at an initial singularity and end at a final singularity. (As Barrow and Tipler wrote, "Initial and final cosmological curvature singularities are required to avoid a universal action singularity." See John D. Barrow and Frank J. Tipler, "Action principles in nature", Nature, Vol. 331, No. 6151 [Jan. 7, 1988], pp. 31-34; see also Frank J. Tipler, "The Structure of the Classical Cosmological Singularity", in Origin and Early History of the Universe: Proceedings of the 26th Liège International Astrophyscial Colloquium, July 1-4, 1986 [Cointe-Ougree, Belgium: Universite de Liege, Institut d'Astrophysique, 1987], pp. 339-359; "Discussion", pp. 360-361.)
Author of "Jesus Is an Anarchist", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Dec. 4, 2011 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2001), http://ssrn.com/abstract=1337761

Theophysics: God Is the Ultimate Physicist (regarding Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point Theory and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything [TOE]), http://theophysics.freevar.com , http://theophysics.host56.com

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